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  • BLACK CLAW CLOSES IN AS WU'S PRIMAL INSTINCTS TAKE CENTER STAGE - SHAUN TOUB, SHARON LEAL, DAMIEN PUCKLER AND JACQUELINE TOBONI GUEST STAR - Suffering from the bite he sustained, Sgt. Wu (Reggie Lee) becomes entangled in a surprising altercation that may land him in hot water. After meeting the mysterious Bonaparte (guest star Shaun Toub), Adalind (Claire Coffee) is faced with a difficult decision that could change her and Nick's (David Giuntoli) lives forever. Meanwhile, Hank (Russell Hornsby) gets even closer to Zuri (guest star Sharon Leal) and their relationship begins to take shape. Back at HW, Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) senses that a new force may jeopardize the entire operation. Silas Weir Mitchell, Sasha Roiz and Bree Turner also star.

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    • Wasn't it a scratch on his leg, not a bite?

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    • Sounds like an exciting episode.  Ya it was a scratch not a bite.

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    • Brimmski wrote:
      Sounds like an exciting episode.  Ya it was a scratch not a bite.

      514-Wu's scratch
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    • Press releases aren't always 100% accurate. They're written by someone at NBC and not someone that works on the show.

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    • Not really an exciting trailer 

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlPesvZP1qQ


      So HW/Resistance did have Diana, they held her captive "Asset X3".  How did BC figure out where she was, unless someone from the inside is a double agent.

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    • It looks like Nick is there with SEan, Adalind, and Diana when Diana starts using her powers. If I go back and look close it seams to be two different buildings. plus Everyone at the warehouse has on the same thing. And Nick has no idea where they are. 

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    • Adalind looked worried too. It seems to be implying not only that Diana's powers are great like we already knew, but that she's out of control.

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    • considering you have a two year old. parents remember the terrible twos,  in a childs body, with powers greater then anything we have seen. why would you think anything could go wrong.  I do get the feeling that Diana is controlling the situation. She left HW with two dead. My first inclination was BC broke her out. But I remember back to Hank showing Nick the flyer of Sean on his car. It dawned on me. Diana see her dad on TV and goes to him. Remember before Diana was born she was aware and able to violently protect her self. Breaking out of HW would be something well within her abilities.  Her is the question how does bonapart fit into this. They say he is not a vilian. Did Eve see the alert leading her to find Diana. or was it Eve looking for Diana that trigered the alert. She did zero on the HW compond when the alert poped up. Is Bonapart the one that trained Eve, and also watching and training Diana.  Her is the question now. How does Adalind control a two year old with that much power. 

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    • I didn't consider the possibility at first, but maybe you're right about Diana controlling these events. Which brings up the question of whether or not Diana is already aware that she has a younger half-brother and that her mother is living with his father now. She might, since I've no doubt Black Claw would be aware of it given they know Nick is a Grimm and have already targeted him, Adalind gave birth in the hospital, Nick acknowledged himself as the father, and of course Adalind is bringing Kelly to work with her. What could Diana have planned for her little brother?

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    • That was an emotional sneak peek. Watching it makes me want Adalind to stay with Nick more than ever. Still, I can't help shake that fear that Renard or Diana or BC or any combination of them will force them apart.

      Anyway, moving on, there had better be no more secrets between them now. Adalind's got to tell him Diana's back.

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    • 71.166.62.83 wrote:
      That was an emotional sneak peek. Watching it makes me want Adalind to stay with Nick more than ever. Still, I can't help shake that fear that Renard or Diana or BC or any combination of them will force them apart.

      Anyway, moving on, there had better be no more secrets between them now. Adalind's got to tell him Diana's back.

      And Nick should tell her about the progress made in exploring the tunnel. If there's anything else I'm missing from either side, they should bring it out.

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    • I'm having a hard time with Adalind being a sympathetic Hexenbiest, who knows what's it like to have your powers make you different and get out of control.  Is it only ok for her to be a sympathetic character because she had Nick's kid, and is now trying to be good? Juliette had no idea what the hell was happening and was written awfully. I don't have a lot of Juliette love, but I find this type of storytelling unfair and very one sided.

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    • So far Adalind has been "trying" to be open yet Nick is still "trying" not to tell her much. 

      Both Nick and Adlaind wanted a "family".  So far they find it within themselves in their unique situation.  Nick is also tyring to make it work and don't want Kelly to grow up with him.  As he mentioned that his mom left when he was 12 and then taken away again. 

      I wonder if we still aother Nick/Adalind will have one of those telepathic connections again. 

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    • Breddgal wrote: I'm having a hard time with Adalind being a sympathetic Hexenbiest, who knows what's it like to have your powers make you different and get out of control.  Is it only ok for her to be a sympathetic character because she had Nick's kid, and is now trying to be good? Juliette had no idea what the hell was happening and was written awfully. I don't have a lot of Juliette love, but I find this type of storytelling unfair and very one sided.

      I agree with you, Nick is such a hypocrite, but most people like this bizarre relationship, Writers forced and managed to conquer "most" of the fans, or at least it seems, since none of the ratings of all episodes reached a value above 1.0 in the demo also the ratings rise with the return of Bitsie Tulloch, but again "most" fans want Juliette/Eve dead again. It is quite clear that shippers are very vocal, the writers should be worried about the ratings than the comments of "many" fans.

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    • TheJorgon23 wrote:

      Breddgal wrote: I'm having a hard time with Adalind being a sympathetic Hexenbiest, who knows what's it like to have your powers make you different and get out of control.  Is it only ok for her to be a sympathetic character because she had Nick's kid, and is now trying to be good? Juliette had no idea what the hell was happening and was written awfully. I don't have a lot of Juliette love, but I find this type of storytelling unfair and very one sided

      I agree with you, Nick is such a hypocrite, but most people like this bizarre relationship, Writers forced and managed to conquer "most" of the fans, or at least it seems, since none of the ratings of all episodes reached a value above 1.0 in the demo also the ratings rise with the return of Bitsie Tulloch, but again "most" fans want Juliette/Eve dead again. It is quite clear that shippers are very vocal, the writers should be worried about the ratings than the comments of "many" fans.

      Hypocrite!  That's the word I was looking for!  And since I read the spoilers, I won't be watching this episode, because as much I'd enjoy the rest of the storyline, I feel like Nick's storyline will soon become a triangle, and I didn't sign on to this show to watch a soap opera.

      If you can tell me your thoughtd of the show after you watch it, I'd appreciate it.


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    • Breddgal wrote:
      TheJorgon23 wrote:

      Breddgal wrote: I'm having a hard time with Adalind being a sympathetic Hexenbiest, who knows what's it like to have your powers make you different and get out of control.  Is it only ok for her to be a sympathetic character because she had Nick's kid, and is now trying to be good? Juliette had no idea what the hell was happening and was written awfully. I don't have a lot of Juliette love, but I find this type of storytelling unfair and very one sided

      I agree with you, Nick is such a hypocrite, but most people like this bizarre relationship, Writers forced and managed to conquer "most" of the fans, or at least it seems, since none of the ratings of all episodes reached a value above 1.0 in the demo also the ratings rise with the return of Bitsie Tulloch, but again "most" fans want Juliette/Eve dead again. It is quite clear that shippers are very vocal, the writers should be worried about the ratings than the comments of "many" fans.

      Hypocrite!  That's the word I was looking for!  And since I read the spoilers, I won't be watching this episode, because as much I'd enjoy the rest of the storyline, I feel like Nick's storyline will soon become a triangle, and I didn't sign on to this show to watch a soap opera.

      If you can tell me your thoughtd of the show after you watch it, I'd appreciate it.


      Okay, then say something

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    • Should I post here and leave you a message?

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    • No need, I'll give you a resume.

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    • Thanks.

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    • I love Shaun Taub! I bet he'll be great as the big bad.

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    • As if Zuri wasn't already asking "too many" questions last week?! There's more! Right away it all seemed staged. Her just being there to stop and shop due to a client - I'd still stop closer to home unless it's a great store I don't have near my own home - but all the questions about the "Grimm" every one knew something was up! UGH is Eve going to see Nick being sympathetic to Adalind in their "talk" will that be the first of the visions? And Meisner losing his shirt - better that than his life! Not many episodes left. Things are about to get ugly me thinks. And oh Nick and Co aren't the only ones taking an interest in Wu's transformation ... does that mean BC too?! How many hands do they have? 

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    • I saw the ADalind being given an ultimatum coming.  I did not see Nick being recruited.  Will he give in so he can protect Adalind. That would be interesting.  What does the rest of the group do. Do they still support Nick. or do they side with Eve and Meisner against Nick, Adalind, an Sean. 

      I though ADalind was going to have the tough choice. It looks like Nick's choice may be just as difficult. If Nick does not go along, That could put Adalind and Kelly in danger. 

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    • Definitely good casting of Diana in terms of looking like Claire - https://www.instagram.com/p/BEyZQFhmyP6/

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    • Wow! That was another intense episode! 

      I expect Nick to start decapetating some BC, at the beginning of the season he was suppose to go "dark" yet it never really transformed.

      So looks like Zuri is officially working for BC, unless they have his brother.  I hope Monroe, Rosalle and Wu went with Hank. As what Hank said "we all need to start watching our backs".  I'm sure Hank knows something is up with Zuri.  He should anyways! 

      Diana seem to have telephatic communication Eve as well.  I would expect Nick to be able to see Adalind through her eyes. I wonder if this gets triggered when Adalind is very depressed/scared. 

      Seems that Diana is more powerful than Eve! 

      Looks like Adalind is now a hostage.

      Seems BC is working very hard to hurt Nick. 

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    • Ngl, I enjoyed the fanservice from Meisner.

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    • If Zuri mission was to get hank to conrad, why did she have to sleep with him. I am starting to see a pattern from the writers. They say sex sells.  

      If Adalind had of told Nick about Diana when she told him about  her powers. When Nick meet with HW they could of been ahead of them and it might not have come down to her going to BC. But why take Kelly with her. She knows she is going into a dangerious situation. Conrad has already threatened Kelly. Why not leave Kelly with NIck. 

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    • Good question. Adalind could have let Nick in on what was happening, but she didn't. So it will not surprise he me if he starts killing people and takes Kelly back but not Adalind.

      Also I'm left wondering what Conrad meant by that BC has a place for Nick in their new world order. But I'm guessing next episode Sean will try and fail to get Nick to play along. There's no way he won't, not after losing Adalind and Kelly.

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    • Early ratings: 0.9, 4.01 million viewers

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    • The thing is Nick's motivation taking down BC is much higher with Adalind AND Kelly there, if Adalind left Kelly, Nick's motivation might not as strong.  I mean they still NEED to take on BC but just motivation is different.  Plus Adalind being there with Diana no one will dare to touch Adalind while Diana is around.  As what Sean said to Conrad to about killing Adalind if Diana knows. 

      Also Adalind most likely knows that Nick will do anything to get them back, this way this gives Nick a bit of time to plan.

      If Zuri is under BC/Conrad's control or they have his brother, Zuri will do ANYTHING to save him or them.  Banging Hank wouldn't be a problem, I'm sure she would be up for it.  Ya writers know sex sells! Both in TV and in Reality. 

      I wonder if Nick's "place" is an example what happens to a Grimm if they resist, remember "resistance is futile".  The fact that they are tailing Nick's friends is something. 

      Looks like Meisner is a human so far... He had problems fighting with the Hundjager, so I doubt he is a Grimm, still possibly a Zauberbiest. 

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    • Diana is one creepy kid. Remind me how she was conceived again.  I don't remember; is Renard really the father?

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    • Breddgal wrote:
      Diana is one creepy kid. Remind me how she was conceived again.  I don't remember; is Renard really the father?

      She sure creeped me out too. I don't recall exactly how she was conceived. It might have had something to do with Adalind having something to bargain with? As for Renard, I believe they did confirm he was the father, though for a while it was questioned if the father was actually his brother Eric, with whom Adalind did have an affair.

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    • Diana was concieved at a time when Adalind was having sex with both Renard and his half broher the legitimate heir Prince Eric. She thinks Renard is the father, but I don't know that there was any test to be sure. Either way she is a Royal. She may or may now have inherited her Hexenbiesrt powers (as Adalind had already lost hers and Eric never had any), but she gained new powers along with her mother when Adalind undrwent the ritual to restore her hexenbiest status. That ritual effected both mother and daughter, giving both of them greater strenth than any hexenbiets could inhereit through mere genetics. 

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    • 107.211.53.70 wrote:
      Diana was concieved at a time when Adalind was having sex with both Renard and his half broher the legitimate heir Prince Eric. She thinks Renard is the father, but I don't know that there was any test to be sure. Either way she is a Royal. She may or may now have inherited her Hexenbiesrt powers (as Adalind had already lost hers and Eric never had any), but she gained new powers along with her mother when Adalind undrwent the ritual to restore her hexenbiest status. That ritual effected both mother and daughter, giving both of them greater strenth than any hexenbiets could inhereit through mere genetics. 

      To add to that, if Renard is the father, Diana also has powerful genes flowing through her body, which is another factor why she is so strong. Her grandma is Elizabeth_Lascelles, Sean's mom, and she was an incredibly powerful Hexenbiest, with the ability to freeze time.

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    • I keep wondering if Elizabeth will make a reappearance, and what she'd make of all that's happened since she was last in Portland, especially with what her son's doing right now.

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    • Just rewatched this episode ad noticed the wrting on the note tha Adalind left dd the dissapearing ink thing like the adress for Henrietta. i stopped it because there were words that lingered after the rest were gone. They said "I have o protect you". I wonder if Nick noticed that.

      Zuri seems to be realy interested in Hank in the first encounter but  is a bit  hurried and off center in the last meeting. This could be due to pressure from Bonapart, worry about her little brother or trying to make what is not true look true. Good acting in any of the three scenarios if it was planned acting, always leave questions. Wondering if her part is to be truely interested in Hank and hopefuly save him as non wesen are not usually welcome with BC so far.

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    • Secret Grimm wrote:
      Just rewatched this episode and noticed the wrting on the note that Adalind left did the dissapearing ink thing like the adress for Henrietta. I stopped it because there were words that lingered after the rest were gone. They said "I have to protect you". I wonder if Nick noticed that.

      Zuri seems to be realy interested in Hank in the first encounter but  is a bit  hurried and off center in the last meeting. This could be due to pressure from Bonapart, worry about her little brother or trying to make what is not true look true. Good acting in any of the three scenarios if it was planned acting, always leave questions. Wondering if her part is to be truely interested in Hank and hopefuly save him as non wesen are not usually welcome with BC so far.


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    • Grimmaniac wrote:
      Brimmski wrote:
      Sounds like an exciting episode.  Ya it was a scratch not a bite.
      514-Wu's scratch

      Rosalee asked Wu in this episode whether Wu was scratched or bitten, so the press release and the Grimm YouTube video on Primal Wu made an error on the description of Wu's character. 

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    • Secret Grimm wrote:
      Secret Grimm wrote:
      Just rewatched this episode and noticed the wrting on the note that Adalind left did the dissapearing ink thing like the adress for Henrietta. I stopped it because there were words that lingered after the rest were gone. They said "I have to protect you". I wonder if Nick noticed that.

      Zuri seems to be realy interested in Hank in the first encounter but  is a bit  hurried and off center in the last meeting. This could be due to pressure from Bonapart, worry about her little brother or trying to make what is not true look true. Good acting in any of the three scenarios if it was planned acting, always leave questions. Wondering if her part is to be truely interested in Hank and hopefuly save him as non wesen are not usually welcome with BC so far.


      Good catches! Henrietta used a similar spell when indicating her contact info. I think Zuri may have been a bit nervous about that meeting, knowing that Bonaparte needs Hank to luse the Grimm to work with BC. She needed to play the part well so Hank didn't get suspicious.

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    • On after buzz they proposed maybe Zuri is to Hank as Rachael is to Sean.  To get Hank to see BC point of view, would add to getting Nick on board. They say the HW vs BC conflict is not going to end how we think it will.   

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    • Final Ratings: 0.8 (Demo), 3.76 million, this is very bad!!!

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    • That's because it was pre-empted in Portland which is of course one of the places that has a fairly high viewership for Grimm.

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    • The Portland Trailblazers are in the playoffs, and were playing that night. That's why the ratings were lower.  That game was aired.

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    • that's way the rating were down last week because Stanley Cup Playoffs and NBA Playoffs

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    • The ratings were down slightly last week just because it's Spring and ratings are always down some. This week was a mixture of Spring and a pre-emption in a major Grimm market.

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    • A Grimmster
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