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  • Ever since that episode with Juliette as "Eve", it got me attracted to what'll be next.

    I wonder if Kelly's powers will be revealed in later episodes. Perhaps almost near the end of the season, he could restore Juliette's humanity. That is if "Eve" snaps or something when it comes to Adalind.

    If Kelly does use his powers on Juliette to restore the positive emotions within her and not the negative, maybe Juliette will finally die on a final episode.

    But before she slowly dies when she sacrifices herself for both Nick, Adalind & Kelly, she tells that she saw Kelly's future that he'll take Nick's place and that he'll save the world.

    In the end... no more Juliette.

    It's just a theory.

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    • you got a lot of imagination! XD a hexenbiest can not see the future! but still hope she dies protecting kelly

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Ever since that episode with Juliette as "Eve", it got me attracted to what'll be next.

      I wonder if Kelly's powers will be revealed in later episodes. Perhaps almost near the end of the season, he could restore Juliette's humanity. That is if "Eve" snaps or something when it comes to Adalind.

      If Kelly does use his powers on Juliette to restore the positive emotions within her and not the negative, maybe Juliette will finally die on a final episode.

      But before she slowly dies when she sacrifices herself for both Nick, Adalind & Kelly, she tells that she saw Kelly's future that he'll take Nick's place and that he'll save the world.

      In the end... no more Juliette.

      It's just a theory.

      Lol that is quite the imagination there.  But the baby that supposed to change the scale is not Kelly  but Diana.  It would nice though if Kelly has the power to stop his insane sister. 

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    • here is a problem what if Diana is with BC and goes after Eve for Big Kelly. But Eve is the one protecting Nick and Adalind from BC. 

      You could then have the Dalind you need to get your daughter under control moment. 

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    • Anyone notice they have changed the list of wesen from Juliette to Eve and added Diana.  Add this to Bitsie saying we will see Diana.  Let the speculations begin. 

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    • Syscrash53 wrote:
      here is a problem what if Diana is with BC and goes after Eve for Big Kelly. But Eve is the one protecting Nick and Adalind from BC. 

      You could then have the Dalind you need to get your daughter under control moment. 

      Two short paragraphs, but oh so many questions. :)

      Why would Diana be with BC? She was raised by Kelly Sr., who would certainly not have approved of BC's agenda, and was last seen with Meisner (who Diana apparently likes), who is a leader in HW. Then Meisner said she was with friends. If she was with anyone, wouldn't she be with HW?

      Also, Diana also seemed to like Juliette, and that was after Kelly was killed, so I can't see her taking revenge on Juliette now. Assuming she blamed anybody for big Kelly's death, it appears she blamed the King (who was, after all, ultimately responsible for all of it).

      Honestly, if there's an "Adalind, you need to get your daughter under control" moment, I would think it would just be the result of some selfish tantrum, not some coordinated attack.

      It doesn't really seem like Eve is protecting Nick and Adalind - more like Meisner is protecting Nick and Adalind and is using Eve to do it. :)

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    • Bmwfan2015 wrote:
      Ever since that episode with Juliette as "Eve", it got me attracted to what'll be next.

      I wonder if Kelly's powers will be revealed in later episodes. Perhaps almost near the end of the season, he could restore Juliette's humanity. That is if "Eve" snaps or something when it comes to Adalind.

      If Kelly does use his powers on Juliette to restore the positive emotions within her and not the negative, maybe Juliette will finally die on a final episode.

      But before she slowly dies when she sacrifices herself for both Nick, Adalind & Kelly, she tells that she saw Kelly's future that he'll take Nick's place and that he'll save the world.

      In the end... no more Juliette.

      It's just a theory.

      Interesting theory. :) I like the idea of Kelly restoring Juliette's humanity, mainly because it would answer the question of what Kelly will grow up to be, without a) having Kelly grow up ridiculously fast, which I HATE, b) having a child fight adult battles, or c) having a major time skip. If this is something that baby Kelly does just on contact, that would be an interesting notion. Assuming, of course, that Juliette's "lost humanity" is due entirely to being turned into a Hexenbiest.

      The more I think about it, though, the more Juliette's "insanity" looks like garden-variety depression, and a need to get away and make a fresh start. Especially now, with the advent of "Eve." In which case, this is who Juliette is, and a lot of what she did last year was partly temporary insanity, and partly just a need to push Nick and his friends away, and partly just... rage. If Kelly takes that away, we're talking "Renesmee" territory (that's from Twilight, if you don't happen to know the reference. Renesmee is the biggest Mary Sue character in the entire Twilight franchise... and that's really saying something. IIRC, she had the power to basically make anybody peaceful and loving, or at least the power to make anybody like her).

      Regarding her having a premonition of Kelly's future, though... that would make Kelly a chosen one. Chosen ones are a horrible trope that needs to be abolished, because it rarely (not never, but rarely) delves into the catastrophic effect that being declared to be extra-special has on a child's psychology.

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    • Buffy turned out ok. she died twice and released Angelis. But on the whole she turned out Ok.  

      Technical she started as the choosen one then there where many.

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    • Syscrash53 wrote:
      Buffy turned out ok. she died twice and released Angelis. But on the whole she turned out Ok.  

      Technical she started as the choosen one then there where many.

      Buffy had a normal childhood, right up until she learned she was a Slayer. And then she tried to reject it, until the end of the Pilot, and at the end of S1, she had a horrible time with the prophecy and wanted to run away. That's really when the show treated the psychology realistically.

      Harry Potter, once he got away from the Dursleys and started attending Hogwarts, also had a horrible time with how everybody treated him as "extra-special." Frankly, if he hadn't been abused and neglected for the first part of his life, he would probably have turned into another Draco... but one with the weight of the world on his little shoulders. He still ended up with the weight of the world on his shoulders, and it resulted in... book 5.

      Aang, from Avatar, the Last Airbender, really has the most realistic portrayal, seen in the episode, The Storm. When he reacted to learning he was the Avatar by running away.

      IRL, when a child is declared to be extra-special (usually by his/her parents), the lesson that's learned is either a) being loved is contingent on being extra-special, or b) you don't have to work for anything, because you deserve it regardless, because you're extra-special. Either way, it's tantamount to child abuse.

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    • I don't see why we necessarly need Kelly to be a chosen one, is half sister is already one. And where did Eve have a premonitions about Diana ?  

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    • I still believe baby kelly is Nick / Juliette's DNA.

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    • 120.21.94.158 wrote: I still believe baby kelly is Nick / Juliette's DNA.

      No, he is not, besides when Kelly was conceived, he has Adalind's DNA, not Juliette, because Adalind can change the outside of the appearance, but not the inside, which means Kelly has Adalind's DNA.

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    • Now that we have seen Eve transform into Sean. Which required not only her look but even her internal skeletal structure to change. The transformation is more then a glamour. You also have to remember a part of the other person containg their DNA is used.  The other thing we need to know. When Eve was Sean if she injured part of the male anatome, say Rachael bite him. Would Eve still have the injury. The show says Adalind did (she became pregnant). Could Rachael have become pregnant if so who's child would it be. 

      A simple answer is the spell changes the structure not the plumbing. The magical answers is. An injure while Sean would transfer to Sean. Meaning Adalind got pregnant when Juliette sleep with Nick as Adalind. 

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    • Syscrash53 wrote:
      Now that we have seen Eve transform into Sean. Which required not only her look but even her internal skeletal structure to change. The transformation is more then a glamour. You also have to remember a part of the other person containg their DNA is used.  The other thing we need to know. When Eve was Sean if she injured part of the male anatome, say Rachael bite him. Would Eve still have the injury. The show says Adalind did (she became pregnant). Could Rachael have become pregnant if so who's child would it be. 

      A simple answer is the spell changes the structure not the plumbing. The magical answers is. An injure while Sean would transfer to Sean. Meaning Adalind got pregnant when Juliette sleep with Nick as Adalind. 


      I read some comments from some fans say it is possible that Kelly is the son of Juliette, I personally never believed that because it did not make much sense, since Adalind changed only their physical appearance and not their DNA, but after the episode 515 and 516, have also started to have my doubts, the transformation of Eve to Renard was quite drastic and somehow made him think that maybe that fans are right, there may be the possibility of Kelly being the son of Juliette, but something tells me the writers don't go there, it would be many strange and weird, but it would be certainly a great twist if that really happen!

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    • I don't want Juliette near baby Kelly at all.


      She is not the stepmother of him.

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    • The writers already confirmed that Kelly is Nick and Adalind's son and all the conspiracy theories regarding his conception needs to let it go and I don't want Juliette/Eve anywhere near Kelly, because she tried to kill him before he was born!

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    • I  think that maybe adalind might end up with nick and sean ends up with eve  haha wouldnt that be cute 

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    • ohh and does anyone know if kelly would be a grimm or a zauberbiest or both

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    • 74.46.255.138 wrote:
      I  think that maybe adalind might end up with nick and sean ends up with eve  haha wouldnt that be cute 

      Sean and Eve; don't know how that would work, but I certainly hope Adalind is able to reunite with Nick.

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    • 74.46.255.138 wrote:
      ohh and does anyone know if kelly would be a grimm or a zauberbiest or both

      There have been some hints that next season Kelly will start to show special powers of his own, but no hint as to what those powers will be.

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    • 74.46.255.138 wrote:
      ohh and does anyone know if kelly would be a grimm or a zauberbiest or both

      Well he will be part Zauberbiest for sure but I don't know about Grimm. Look at Renard who is half Royal, half Zauberbiest. I don't see why there would be a difference between him and Kelly. 

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    • Eve has already said the anger belongs to Juliette. Eve even said she would do everything she could to protect Kelly. Eve even went an warned Adalind about BC and the danger she was in.  Other then personal bias, there is no reason to have concern about Eve around Kelly. 

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    • Syscrash53 wrote:
      Eve has already said the anger belongs to Juliette. Eve even said she would do everything she could to protect Kelly. Eve even went an warned Adalind about BC and the danger she was in.  Other then personal bias, there is no reason to have concern about Eve around Kelly. 

      Just because she changed her name doesn't change what she did. She tried to kill Adalind even when she was aware of the baby. Juilette is still apart of Eve. Why would Adalind or Nick allow their child around someone like that? Would you allow your child around someone who tried to kill you while you was pregnant? Doubtful. 

      Even as Eve she still causing trouble for Nick and Adalind by making threats towards Adalind. You can change your name and change your looks but it doesn't change who you are. Eve is still Juilette she just doesn't want to deal with the things she did. 

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    • KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Syscrash53 wrote:
      Eve has already said the anger belongs to Juliette. Eve even said she would do everything she could to protect Kelly. Eve even went an warned Adalind about BC and the danger she was in.  Other then personal bias, there is no reason to have concern about Eve around Kelly. 
      Just because she changed her name doesn't change what she did. She tried to kill Adalind even when she was aware of the baby. Juilette is still apart of Eve. Why would Adalind or Nick allow their child around someone like that? Would you allow your child around someone who tried to kill you while you was pregnant? Doubtful. 

      Even as Eve she still causing trouble for Nick and Adalind by making threats towards Adalind. You can change your name and change your looks but it doesn't change who you are. Eve is still Juilette she just doesn't want to deal with the things she did. 

      Your statement is contridicted by the statements made in interviews. The statment of what she did as Juiette belongs to Juliette.  There are many people who because of their past have choosen to reinvent themselves. Some have changed their names. People starting over do not always reconcile their past.  

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    • Syscrash53 wrote:
      KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Syscrash53 wrote:
      Eve has already said the anger belongs to Juliette. Eve even said she would do everything she could to protect Kelly. Eve even went an warned Adalind about BC and the danger she was in.  Other then personal bias, there is no reason to have concern about Eve around Kelly. 
      Just because she changed her name doesn't change what she did. She tried to kill Adalind even when she was aware of the baby. Juilette is still apart of Eve. Why would Adalind or Nick allow their child around someone like that? Would you allow your child around someone who tried to kill you while you was pregnant? Doubtful. 

      Even as Eve she still causing trouble for Nick and Adalind by making threats towards Adalind. You can change your name and change your looks but it doesn't change who you are. Eve is still Juilette she just doesn't want to deal with the things she did. 

      Your statement is contridicted by the statements made in interviews. The statment of what she did as Juiette belongs to Juliette.  There are many people who because of their past have choosen to reinvent themselves. Some have changed their names. People starting over do not always reconcile their past.  

      That has nothing to do with Adalind and Nick letting Kelly around Juilette. If Juilette wants to forget what she did that is fine but that doesn't mean others should. If Juilette wants to sart a whole new life she can but that life wouldn't include Nick and Adalind and especially not Kelly. 

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    • what if kelly is juliette's baby. *puts on tin foil hat*

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    • No, Adalind was shaped like Juliette for a short time and the time sperm travels and conception takes place is at least 7 hours.

      MaryLikesGrimm

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    • Juliette never understand a Nick

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    • A Grimmster
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