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  • "I just think that some of our wesen friends might not be copacetic, rubbing elbows with a Grimm."

    Monroe, The Wild Hunt

    I burst out laughing on hearing this comment. Forget about Rosalee getting insulted in The Wild Hunt - Monroe's dad is a real jerk, by the way (much like ancient imperialists, wouldn't surprise me if he's a verrat sleeper) - wouldn't it be priceless (and somewhat sadistically badass) to picture a scene where Nick showing up at a wedding venue full of wesen? I mean, to the old Grimms, that's like an all-heads-you-can-chop smorgasbord! And even though Nick's the new Grimm, there would still be old issues.

    Now, I can picture two outcomes: One, total chaos (worst-case scenario). And two, there's a scuttle, but Nick and/or calmed them down. And I guess the best-case scenario would be Nick making some wesen friends. It's a long shot, but it's a prospect I like to visionize.

    Thoughts?

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    • I was hoping Nick would be the best man (he did introduce the two of them, after all!), but yeah, it's gonna be awkward and nuts and the best wedding ever!

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    • They could have a "No Wogeing" rule, explained by the fact that they have many Wesen friends from inimical groups.

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    • For Dragonfighter:

      Rules are only words. Wesen cannot control their woge when they are highly emotional - and that would be a great place to be emotional (believe me, I know).

      For SrtaEspanyola:

      Yeah, Nick the best Grimman, so to speak - that's awesome. And Juliette can be the bridesmaid. There's the first pair. But I thought there should be two pairs of bridesmaids and best man... if so, what about the other pair? Hank's definitely a candidate for the other best man, but who to pair him up with? Zuri (don't think so)? Alicia (likely but maybe not really)? Adalind (just kidding, not gonna happen)? Anyone else?

      Thoughts?

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    • Why not pair Hank with DeEtta, any Fuchsbau that will challenge a Blutbad gets my vote.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Why not pair Hank with DeEtta, any Fuchsbau that will challenge a Blutbad gets my vote.

      DeEtta will rain hell bigtime on the wedding pair - unless Monroe's folks counter-rain hell back on her. The wedding is gonna turn into a jamboree with her fired up. Are you sure pairing her with Hank is a good idea?

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    • yea, put those two together, I like that idea ^^ And Nick should def be the best man. :)

      Unless it's going to be a double-wedding XD

      @Dragonfighter

      No woging doesn't solve the problem. The Blutbads can smell wich one is Blutbad und who isn't...

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    • DeEtta and Bud, guys! I didn't realize how much I wanted that to happen until just now! LOL

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    • Bud is a happily married Eisbiber

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    • I don't know about wedding customs in other countries, but in the US, you can have married people in your wedding party without their spouses. I'm not saying Bud has to marry DeEtta; he takes care of Monroe, she takes care of Rosalee. Maid/Matron of Honor and Best Man are generally the ones who hold the rings and help keep things under control to allow the bride and groom to do their thing. 

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    • I thought you were matchmaking, since Nick is best man and Juliette is with Rosalee.

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    • Hey hey hey DeEtta fans, look. I don't recall Monroe or Rosalee mention them having a Grimm as a best friend. And DeEtta never met Nick. So unless the next episode involves Rosalee's family meeting Monroe's family - with Nick's presence, I don't think it's a good idea having her in the same room with Nick during the wedding...

      Thoughts?

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    • We are preparing the scene for the wedding bust-up to end all wedding bust-ups!

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    • That'll be fun.

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    • Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Hey hey hey DeEtta fans, look. I don't recall Monroe or Rosalee mention them having a Grimm as a best friend. And DeEtta never met Nick. So unless the next episode involves Rosalee's family meeting Monroe's family - with Nick's presence, I don't think it's a good idea having her in the same room with Nick during the wedding...

      Thoughts?

      Would you've told your family right away after meeting the first time in years that you befriend a Grimm? Not the best way to start a conversation... Leave that for the second meeting ;-)

      But after what happened with Monroe's parents, I'm sure Rosalee is going to introduce Nick long before entering the church. They will meet eventually at the wedding, Best Man or not. There's no way, Nicks not gonna be at the party ^^

      But because Nick has investigated the case of Freddies murder and arrested the culprits (or did he kill them? Lost track...) the Culverts might believe he's sincere much faster than Monroe's folks.

      I wonder if Bud and his Eisbieber-Gang will also come... Depends mostly on the numer of Blutbaden in the church I guess... XD

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    • I'd like to believe he will present. A good chance to let all wesen community to acknowledge the new and most trustworthy steadfast Grimm ally. But maybe he might leave early to prevent disturbance.

      He definitely arrested the "J" gangs - with the help of Monroe and Rosalee, I might add. The Calverts has got to realize he's a true friendly, not an "Endezeichen" or sort.

      Monroe's parents deserve a good beating, though, being such a jackass and all. Bart's son is very much like Lenny from Shark Tale(hey! That's another element!): Vegetarian, unorthodox friends, and pretty much the public popularity.

      Bud and his Eisbiber group... that was interesting. Nick saving them from the Hasslich made him an instant popularity among their community (Remember when all of them send rewards to Nick's house too many they flushed Juliette outside?).

      Hey! Who else do you think might present at the wedding? Carly and her dad? Roddy the Reinigen as musical guest (sounds like SNL now)? Robin the Seltenvogel? Jocelyn and Vincent and their Gluenvolk daughter? Anyone else?

      It'll be real nice to see them getting altogether for a first time. Like I said, it may not happen, but I like the prospect.

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    • You forgot Holly Clark, Leroy Estes and Reynaldo.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      You forgot Holly Clark, Leroy Estes and Reynaldo.

      Well, Leroy and Holly, maybe. But Reynaldo? He's a little too sketchy.

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    • Actually I think Reynaldo makes more sense than Leroy and Holly, Reynaldo is a friend of Monroe, the others are just secondary characters.

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    • I said Leroy as Monroe mentions his friend Leroy, of course this may not be the Mauzhertz, Leroy Estes. It was implied at the end of "Let Your Hair Down" that Monroe would teach Holly about being a Blutbad.

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    • Definitely inviting Hank. And maybe Captain Renard. Maybe Wu if he's in the gang by then...

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    • From the end of "A Dish Best Served Cold", he has a whole gang of Blutbad friends,who probably know all about Nick.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      From the end of "A Dish Best Served Cold", he has a whole gang of Blutbad friends,who probably know all about Nick.

      Wait wait wait. Those blutbuden were all part of Ostler plan? I thought they were the real deal, getting ready for war. How many of 'em were on board?

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    • SrtaEspanyola wrote:
      Definitely inviting Hank. And maybe Captain Renard. Maybe Wu if he's in the gang by then...

      Never had any doubts about Hank. I guess Wu would be the next in line to be in Nick's gang. He's getting very close to crossing the threshold. And he's fun to be around. Renard... he's a friendly but... are Zauerbiests welcomed in the wesen community?

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    • Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      From the end of "A Dish Best Served Cold", he has a whole gang of Blutbad friends,who probably know all about Nick.
      Wait wait wait. Those blutbuden were all part of Ostler plan? I thought they were the real deal, getting ready for war. How many of 'em were on board?


      They must have been otherwise the rest of the staff would have been lunch.

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    • Point taken.

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    • I agree, Dragonfighter ;)

      And I don't see why every Wesen who appeared in the show so far should be invited to Monroe's and Rosalee's Wedding. Some of those never met them, Robin for instance. It would only make sense at Nicks Wedding. And that would be like the final moment of the show, bringing all of them together for a biiiig family-picture ^^°

      And the Glühenvolk... sure, Rosalee helped them, but I can't imagine them coming out of hiding for a wedding of people they barely know...

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    • What about the Campfers? They are Hank's friends and the Coyotls were neutralized. Maybe Hank can invite them?

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    • Maybe, but I doubt it. As far as I know, it's not common to invite people to a wedding, who don't have a direct connection to the couple. Only if they are accompanying other guests.

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    • Long shot, I guess. But liked the prospect.

      Everyone would know that time has changed and they'll always have a friendly Grimm guarding their backs. Maybe two, if Kelly's successfully indoctrinated.

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    • XD I seriously doubt that XDD

      But at least she won't kill Nicks friends.

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    • I don't know, I kinda want Kelly crashing the wedding and all hell breaking loose... 

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    • I'm just saying - "if she's successfully indoctrinated" - that means she's not so... aggresive at wesen presence anymore. Maybe there's a chance.

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    • -Dreamwalker

      Does anyone else think that Monroe and Rosalee inviting all of their friends and family to the wedding is the best way to start World War 3?

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    • what a happy thought...

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    • Or they can do what my fiancé and I are (unintentionally) doing... being engaged so freakin' long that even the people who were against it are bugging us to get on with it already haha

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    • No, that's what Nick and Juliette are doing.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      No, that's what Nick and Juliette are doing.

      What... exactly... are they doing?

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    • Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      No, that's what Nick and Juliette are doing.
      What... exactly... are they doing?

      Living together for so long that everybody is encouraging them to get married.

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    • You know, ABC Castle's Kevin Ryan said something awesome:

      "Not ten minutes from the altar, they'll all be like, 'When are you two having a baby?'"

      I believe it was quite... good they took it slow after Rosalee's fever. Remember how that turned out? Now I guess it's about time they got engaged - a few more of episodes of still "won't"s and some of *our* fans will just crack (maybe including me). Don't care how their kids may turn out to be, they're just so cute together!

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    • Beeing married doesn't mean they're gonna have babies right away... ;-)

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    • No kidding, but others rushing them to get married makes me feel that way.

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    • Who's rushing them? At the moment, the only ones knowing about the engagement are Monroe's parents. And they won't rush them for sure XD

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    • Maybe the 'audience' are rushing 'em? :-) The Grimm fans?

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    • Indeed. I don't have twitter, but I'm sure it's flooded with tweets.

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    • Well, I got Baidu postwall on my end. I know it's flooded. Trust me, thousands of fans are anxiously expecting Monroe and Rosalee getting reconciled and married. Take it from me.

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    • Before the wedding shenanigans. How would the bachelor and bridal parties turn out? xD

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    • QuinnHeartly wrote:
      Before the wedding shenanigans. How would the bachelor and bridal parties turn out? xD

      Elaborate, please?

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    • QuinnHeartly wrote:
      Before the wedding shenanigans. How would the bachelor and bridal parties turn out? xD


      Oh my, I know what you mean XDD

      The Girls Night out is goingto be funny, but how will a Blutbaden, a Grimm, an Icebiber  and a Kehrseite party without spilling too much blood? XDD

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    • Sure they'll find a way. And if by "Kehrseite" you mean Hank, then technically it should be "KSK". And why do they have to spill blood? Sure they are not as same as their same kind in 18th century? Are we talking individuals or species?

      P.S.

      I'm putting together a list of all the wesen Nick saved, directly or indirectly, I'm thinking of Nick and Juliette's wedding in the far future, and I'm thinking of getting ALL of them invited with an "objection dismissal". Everything goes on in my mind and I'll try to write them down into a short story. I'll start a new discussion soon and I'll need some help putting them together.

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    • SrtaEspanyola wrote:
      I don't know about wedding customs in other countries, but in the US, you can have married people in your wedding party without their spouses. I'm not saying Bud has to marry DeEtta; he takes care of Monroe, she takes care of Rosalee. Maid/Matron of Honor and Best Man are generally the ones who hold the rings and help keep things under control to allow the bride and groom to do their thing. 

      I know for a fact that he will chose Nick as his Best Man

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    • Bheadr27 wrote:
      QuinnHeartly wrote:
      Before the wedding shenanigans. How would the bachelor and bridal parties turn out? xD

      Oh my, I know what you mean XDD

      The Girls Night out is goingto be funny, but how will a Blutbaden, a Grimm, an Icebiber  and a Kehrseite party without spilling too much blood? XDD

      Omg imagine them going to a strip club

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    • Well there is always the club that Ariel Eberhart used to dance at.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Well there is always the club that Ariel Eberhart used to dance at.

      Yeeaaah... Imagine their face if they see Ariel again...

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    • 68.197.191.29 wrote:
      SrtaEspanyola wrote:
      I don't know about wedding customs in other countries, but in the US, you can have married people in your wedding party without their spouses. I'm not saying Bud has to marry DeEtta; he takes care of Monroe, she takes care of Rosalee. Maid/Matron of Honor and Best Man are generally the ones who hold the rings and help keep things under control to allow the bride and groom to do their thing. 
      I know for a fact that he will chose Nick as his Best Man

      I figured he would. It only makes sense. As soon as they said "wedding", I could really see no other option. He introduced them, after all... Good for them both!

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    • 68.197.191.29 wrote: 

      I know for a fact that he will chose Nick as his Best Man

      How come?

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    • Bheadr27 wrote:
      68.197.191.29 wrote: 

      I know for a fact that he will chose Nick as his Best Man

      How come?

      Why not? Perfect bromance buddies. Who else to choose? Vik Beckendorf?

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    • Monroe has mentioned his friend Leroy and Reynaldo is also his friend.

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    • I meant why "for a fact"? Reference please?

      I do believe personally too that Nick will be the Best Man, but I don't know that for a fact yet ;-)

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    • Is the wedding episode set yet?

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    • This is how close to a wedding they are based on "The Law of Sacrifice" which they are filming now

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    • PDXBlazer wrote:
      This is how close to a wedding they are based on "The Law of Sacrifice" which they are filming now

      Oooh, exciting!

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    • Immortal ripper wrote:
      PDXBlazer wrote:
      This is how close to a wedding they are based on "The Law of Sacrifice" which they are filming now
      Oooh, exciting!

      What's exciting? C'mon, gimme some plot... no twitter access on my end!

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    • The picture is of a shop.

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    • Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Immortal ripper wrote:
      PDXBlazer wrote:
      This is how close to a wedding they are based on "The Law of Sacrifice" which they are filming now
      Oooh, exciting!
      What's exciting? C'mon, gimme some plot... no twitter access on my end!


      I can't say much because some people don't want to be spoiled.

      Does this work? http://i.imgur.com/1pX6axG.jpg

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    • Immortal ripper wrote:
      PDXBlazer wrote:
      This is how close to a wedding they are based on "The Law of Sacrifice" which they are filming now
      Oooh, exciting!

      What's exciting? I got no twitter access on my end. What happened?

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    • Ok ok ok, if you can't follw the link, it's the picture of a bridal shop XD

      So everyone gets exited ;-)

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    • They are exited from the bridal shop?

      Just kidding, I know you meant to say excited.

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    • Say Wesen to the Dress! (Stupid joke is stupid, but I'm making it anyway). I'm excited, at any rate- Bree is going to look gorgous no matter what they put her in!

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    • WAAAAAOW. A bridal shop!!! Looks like a wedding is already in motion! I don't know what to say. Monroe and Rosalee are so cute together. Wonder what suit Monroe will be in, and also wonder what a wesen wedding will be like - can't be too close or too far from traditional human wedding, right?

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    • Why is everbody assuming that is it for Rosalee, maybe Juliette is looking.

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    • Because Rosalee is the one we know is engaged

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    • That's assuming she doesn't call it off after meeting Monroe's parents.

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    • ehhh, Juliette is not engaged at the moment so Rosalee is the natural choice for the next Bride-to-be. And the text stated, that both Ladies visited that shop ;-)

      Unless it's going to be a double-wedding (wich would deprive us of the question Nick as Best man or not).

      And I sincerely hope Monroe won't wear a babyblue tuxedo XDD Beside that, everything would be fine. Cause if he's gonna wear blue, his Best man would have too... and urks... that would be sooooo lame, all men in babyblue... XDD

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    • Bheadr27 wrote:
      ehhh, Juliette is not engaged at the moment so Rosalee is the natural choice for the next Bride-to-be. And the text stated, that both Ladies visited that shop ;-)

      But the episode in question is six in the future, plenty of time for Nick to propose.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Bheadr27 wrote:
      ehhh, Juliette is not engaged at the moment so Rosalee is the natural choice for the next Bride-to-be. And the text stated, that both Ladies visited that shop ;-)
      But the episode in question is six in the future, plenty of time for Nick to propose.


      and then he can continue the Grimm bloodline!

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Bheadr27 wrote:
      ehhh, Juliette is not engaged at the moment so Rosalee is the natural choice for the next Bride-to-be. And the text stated, that both Ladies visited that shop ;-)
      But the episode in question is six in the future, plenty of time for Nick to propose.


      I think it's probably hard enough to have one wedding in a season, let alone two

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    • PDXBlazer wrote:
      Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Bheadr27 wrote:
      ehhh, Juliette is not engaged at the moment so Rosalee is the natural choice for the next Bride-to-be. And the text stated, that both Ladies visited that shop ;-)
      But the episode in question is six in the future, plenty of time for Nick to propose.

      I think it's probably hard enough to have one wedding in a season, let alone two


      But wouldn't it be easier to do them simultaneously?

      Anyways, maybe Juliette is at the bridal shop to help Rosalee.

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    • She sure is there for helping Rosalee. Maybe Bridesmaid?

      We don't know about any other friends Rosalee might ask in Portland. Unless her sister gets the job.

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    • Bheadr27 wrote:
      She sure is there for helping Rosalee. Maybe Bridesmaid?

      We don't know about any other friends Rosalee might ask in Portland. Unless her sister gets the job.


      I get a feeling that she will invite many of her fuchsbau friends.

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    • Or Ziegevolk friends.

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    • Ziegevolk, maybe not, but why no Fuchsbau?

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    • Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Ziegevolk, maybe not, but why no Fuchsbau?

      We've met her Ziegevolk friend (Roni) but not any Fuchsbau friends, apart from possibly Alicia.

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    • Remember, just because there are many Wesen in Portland doesn't mean there are no humans at all. Some of Juliette's friends might actually be Kersheite.

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    • and how will all of these wesen react to that a Grimm will be present at the wedding?

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    • Immortal ripper wrote:
      and how will all of these wesen react to that a Grimm will be present at the wedding?

      That was Monroe's question at the start of this thread.

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    • Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Ziegevolk, maybe not, but why no Fuchsbau?
      We've met her Ziegevolk friend (Roni) but not any Fuchsbau friends, apart from possibly Alicia.


      Roni is a friend of Juliette, not Rosalee ;-)

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    • They all have lives outside the show, guys. Just because we haven't seen other friends doesn't mean they don't exist. Otherwise, Monroe's observation about their Wesen friends would be null and void, because almost every Wesen we've seen them interact with (save, probably, DeEtta and Gloria) they've interacted with Nick's involvement. And they could also have human friends outside of Hank and Juliette.

      We have seen some of Juliette's friends, and just because Roni, Alicia, and Rosalee are Wesen doesn't mean everybody is Wesen... although that would be a heck of a plot twist, wouldn't it? 

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    • SrtaEspanyola wrote:

      We have seen some of Juliette's friends, and just because Roni, Alicia, and Rosalee are Wesen doesn't mean everybody is Wesen... although that would be a heck of a plot twist, wouldn't it? 


      Yeah, it would XDD

      Like in MIB, it would explain the NY taxi-drivers XDD

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    • Bheadr27 wrote:
      Dragonfighter1 wrote:
      Harbinger3781 wrote:
      Ziegevolk, maybe not, but why no Fuchsbau?
      We've met her Ziegevolk friend (Roni) but not any Fuchsbau friends, apart from possibly Alicia.

      Roni is a friend of Juliette, not Rosalee ;-)

      That's right. :-)

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    • Ooohh!!! I can't wait for this wedding. I have feeling that in the midst of the guys having fun at Monroe's bachelor party, they have to fight/arrest a wesen.

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    • Here is what David Greenwalt and Jim Kouf have to say about the wedding

      "While Monroe and Rosalee couldn’t be happier about their upcoming nuptials, the same can’t be said for their families. So expect a lot of friction to evolve from that conflict, says Greenwalt. “A lot of hell is going to break loose on that,” he says. Troubles aside, fans can expect wedding bells at the very end of the season, he adds, with Kouf teasing that Nick’s involvement with the wedding could creates “its own set of problems” among the Wesen crowd. “It could make for some fireworks,” he says"

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    • -Dreamwalker

      If Monroe and Rosalee have a kid, will it be bultbad, fuchsbau. or some kind of hybrid?

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    • See the Wesen page (Birds and Bees)

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    • -Dreamwalker

      I saw that but it realy has not been explored in depth.

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    • I don't think aybody knows, just like before a woman gets pregnant, there is no way of tellling if she is going to have a boy or a girl.

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    • Hopefully the show lasts long enough for us to find out

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    • Well If Season 4 is made that will be long enough.

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    • The writers may want to wait longer than 1 season since they already have Adalind's baby to deal with for who knows how long

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    • Immortal ripper wrote:
      Bheadr27 wrote:
      Roni is a friend of Juliette, not Rosalee ;-)
      That's right. :-)


      Well, good thing Nick didn't have to meet Roni.

      On one side, if the legends are true, then if male Ziegvolks are very effective against women, then female Ziegvolks may be like, vice versa. Don't know how much Roni can influence a Grimm, though (maybe none, maybe surplus) - hopefully we never have to find out.

      On the other side, I think as far as Nick knows, Ziegevolks are "94% neutral / 6% hostile" wesen. From Capra to that lawyer Kellogg, they are no big threat, but they can play cheap tricks. I fear if Roni meets Nick, she'll scream her goat head off - literally.

      Thoughts?

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    • Nick has met her. You remember the Picture from the Christmasparty when Nick and Juliette kissed under the Mistletoe? They met at that party ;-))

      But ok, his Grimm-Genes weren't in effect at that time XD

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    • Yeah yeah you're right. Exactly, I remembered. He's met her before. Just not in Grimm-Wesen mode. Can't imagine what jamboree they are gonna be in if it was Grimm-Wesen mode. But I guess her powers won't be able to affect Nick, right? Or at least, "hard to"?

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    • -Dreamwalker

      Au contraire, remember kiss of the muse? Nick was affected faster because he was a grimm.

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    • It depends... ;-)

      Grimm have some stronger resistance against the effect of the coins for instance, but it comes with the price of weaker resistance against Wesen like Musai.

      I guess it is a question of how Grimm encounter the "poison".

      The Musai-Poison and that of Cracher-Mortal were applied directly to his skin (his face no less). And since he doesn't have impenetrable skin, he could do nothing against it. Plus his stronger metabolism absorbed and processed it much faster.

      The "charming" of a Ziegevolk on the other hand might've rather to do more with mental resistance than physical. Grimms are strongminded, that's why the coins have lesser effect on them. And a Ziegevolk is meddling with the victims minds. So I guess Nick could resist longer than the others.

      And since we already had 3 Ziegevolk in the show, there's a good chance Nick'll have to handle anonther one, so we might get to see that XD

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    • Don't forget that Ziegvolk are more effective against creatures that have a better sense of smell- Billy Capra almost seduced Monroe by proxy and both Barry Kellogg and Roni seemed to make Rosalee feel a little sick. So if Nick's sense of smell isn't that great, he might be better off.

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    • -Dreamwalker

      Imagine an overpowered Musai/Ziegevolk hybrid.

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    • A musai/zeigevolk hybrid?!? That Wesen will be irresistible! LOL

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    • QuinnHeartly wrote:
      A musai/zeigevolk hybrid?!? That Wesen will be irresistible! LOL


      Exactly. It'll be like a wesen with cheat codes on.

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    • A Grimmster
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