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  • I wonder, when are we going to see another non-Wesen? We've met La Llorona and Volcanalis, Grausen was an illness, and Krampus's identity is ambiguous. 

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    • Given time, I'm sure we will.

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    • Non-wesen creatures are not common, so they shouldn't appear so often...but still is an awesome resource

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    • -Dreamwalker

      Works well when you need something that's just to extreme for a wesen.

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    • Maybe not until season 4, as we didn't see any in season 1, so they could be something only seen in even numbered seasons.

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    • Jim Kouf said in one of his post-season 3 interviews that they plan on doing another Spanish and Filipino story, and likely a Chinese one too in season 4, so maybe one or more of those will end up being non-Wesen beings

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    • PDXBlazer wrote:
      Jim Kouf said in one of his post-season 3 interviews that they plan on doing another Spanish and Filipino story, and likely a Chinese one too in season 4, so maybe one or more of those will end up being non-Wesen beings


      Filipino = Engkanto
      Spanish = I'm thinking something that is centred around the Day of the Dead. Or La Planchada. A ghost nurse who killed all her patients. In other versions, she heals them. :S
      Chinese = ...I searched. I have found several http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghosts_in_Chinese_culture

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    • The Filipino one could be Duende or Manananggal since those were the other 2 that Reggie Lee suggested to the writers besides Aswang.

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    • PDXBlazer wrote:
      The Filipino one could be Duende or Manananggal since those were the other 2 that Reggie Lee suggested to the writers besides Aswang.


      Duende's are a funny one to do. If they like you, they bring you good luck. If they don't...bad luck. xD So you have to spoil them with gifts, so they'll like you. Oh...and they LOVE little kids, sometimes they kidnap them. <- that part won't be funny. Spoiling them would be pretty funny.

      Manananggal is like the Aswang. It just segments itself and FLIES!!! But they're called wakwaks because the sound of their wings.

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    • I don't know about Dwende or Manananggal, my guess is that those were the concept for the Aswang episode, but the went for the Aswang... so I think they maybe will give us something else (I would love to se a Dwende, tho).

      for the Spanish episode I would love to se an alebrije-like wesen... and about the Chinese one...well, there's so many myths and creatures to start guesing now; we'll have to wait for it...

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    • Well, the Aswang eposode came, and the Aswang is a wesen/paranormal creature here, because of being able to change most of his body, and not only the face and his strengh

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    • First Non-Wesen creature was La Llorna, a ghosts, the second was a nature force or God, Volcanalis(what a weak caracter), what could the third be? God himself?

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    • Aswang is Wesen. I actually liked Volcanalis.

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    • i believe that they should introduce more non-wesen for season 4 like some more demons that took notice of volcanalises death and investigate what happend.

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    • For a Chinese story they could use a Jiangshi, a zombie-like vampire that sucks the chi out of the living.

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    • The comics had the "Chinese Dragon-like" wesen, maybe they could introduce that wesen into the series.

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    • what about a Vedmak?

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    • Assassincr33d0 wrote:
      what about a Vedmak?

      Isn't that just a cross between a Zauberbiest and a Koschie?

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    • well specifically in Slavic mythology a Vedmak is a male witch so yes it can be classified as a Zauberbiest but the Vedmak seems to possess more positive qualities. They seem to treat animals and human kindly, protect humanity and best of all, they force witches to stop commiting evil (look out Adalind)  

      but on the other hand they are believed/thought to be connected to the devil in some way and even causing pestilence, so there seems to be a supernatural/biblical connection the Vedmak seeing as how the killing of cattle and spoiling of livestock is connected to Pestilence. 

      I guess Vedmak could also be considered Slavic skinwalkers only more varied since they can shapeshift into either a horse, a moth or more traditionally a wolf and to add to their supernatural nature, they are supoosedly immune to enchantments ( I don't if Hexenbiest spells/curses qualify as enchantments but apparently magic does nothing to these guys)

      So far a Vedmak in my opinion sounds like some kind anti-Hexen/Zauberbiest creature 

      it's your call hoenstly on wheter a Vedmak could be considered non-wesen or even be involved/associated with the universe the show takes place in guys, I just wanted to bring it up out of interest and see what you guys would have to say about it

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    • I think the a vedmak could certainly be a Wesen, not so sure about one being a non-wesen supernatural creature.

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    • I was actually thinking about something reminiscent to a ghost 

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    • Already have la llorona

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    • DreamwalkerOfTheDreamscape wrote:
      Already have la llorona

      La llorona is a ghost, but there are several kinds of ghosts not just La llorona. I mean there are a lot of cool spirits in myth and legend that could be a non-wesen. 

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    • Wildesheer9876 wrote:
      DreamwalkerOfTheDreamscape wrote:
      Already have la llorona
      La llorona is a ghost, but there are several kinds of ghosts not just La llorona. I mean there are a lot of cool spirits in myth and legend that could be a non-wesen. 

      Like her sons?

      OHHHHHH, We have:

      La Llorona

      Her 3 sons

      And Volcanalis

      5 in total

      O

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    • 186.176.128.126 wrote:
      Wildesheer9876 wrote:
      DreamwalkerOfTheDreamscape wrote:
      Already have la llorona
      La llorona is a ghost, but there are several kinds of ghosts not just La llorona. I mean there are a lot of cool spirits in myth and legend that could be a non-wesen. 
      Like her sons?

      OHHHHHH, We have:

      La Llorona

      Her 3 sons

      And Volcanalis

      5 in total

      O

      Volcanalis is a demon not a ghost and yes her kids were ghosts, but I meant ghosts like Dybbuk and other spirits from myth that aren't exactly the same as the ghosts that were presented. 

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    • Wildesheer9876 wrote:

      186.176.128.126 wrote:
      Wildesheer9876 wrote:
      DreamwalkerOfTheDreamscape wrote:
      Already have la llorona
      La llorona is a ghost, but there are several kinds of ghosts not just La llorona. I mean there are a lot of cool spirits in myth and legend that could be a non-wesen. 
      Like her sons?

      OHHHHHH, We have:

      La Llorona

      Her 3 sons

      And Volcanalis

      5 in total

      O

      Volcanalis is a demon not a ghost and yes her kids were ghosts, but I meant ghosts like Dybbuk and other spirits from myth that aren't exactly the same as the ghosts that were presented. 

      I was refering to him as a non-wesen...

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    • Looks like we get our next non-Wesen being with a Golem

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    • PDXBlazer wrote:
      Looks like we get our next non-Wesen being with a Golem

      Even though it's not a wesen at least I still get my Golem wish answered.

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    • Back in March i had a "stab in the dark" about  a non wesen golem whit Zauberbiest connection on Create a wesen.

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    • The Hebrew letters on the creature's head read "emet", meaning "Truth". In some versions of the Chelm and Prague narratives, the Golem is killed by removing the first letter, making the word spell "met", meaning "dead".

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    • True, but due to some comments frm the writers, I think they will kill i t another way.

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    • I thought emet meant life.

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    • It does, but erase the first letter and you have "met" - death.

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    • I understand that, but A Grimmster said it meant truth.

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    • oh, missed that.

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    • I amde a page about non wesen

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    • hi i am from persia, in good soldair episode, has been told that mantikor is from persia, i know a lot of about our fairy tail stories, but i never heard of it and my grand mothers too,

      i liked blam in laliorana, and like trubel too,

      mostly ,famale wesens

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    • 2.180.54.78 wrote: hi i am from persia, in good soldair episode, has been told that mantikor is from persia, i know a lot of about our fairy tail stories, but i never heard of it and my grand mothers too,

      i liked blam in laliorana, and like trubel too,

      mostly ,famale wesens

      That's because the manticore was a myth created by people not from Persia. It was said to live in Persia, and the myth was perpetuated by people who had never been there.

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    • we have here maderazma that is more fun than mantikor,why they dont make it perpetuate ? persia has alot of fairy tale cretures. when we watched that episode we become so sad that an english wesen is attached to us.:(

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    • What about that episode based on Georgian mythology such as Ocho Kochi. Ocho Kochi translates to Mingrelian (Ocho "half" + Kochi "man"), it is creature with hairy body and head, axe like stone horn on breast which kills travelers. Creature could be Non Being, it would be amazing to see Monster like creature. It would be amazing to see Georgian wesen also.

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    • Regarding the non-wesen page, are we sure Volcanalis is a demon? It seems more like a fire elemental to me. It's attachment to a natural area and feature seems to fit the description of an elemental more. Just wanted to put that out there for whoever is in charge of that page to reconsider the clasification. I suppose I could just make the edit myself, but it seems insensitive to do that without the community discussing it first and all of us agreeing the reclassification is correct.

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    • A Grimmster
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