Very little, but this last episode was the best episode of season 5 and one of the best in the show, the season 4 was very bad and the season 5 is very weak, I miss the good times of the season 2 and 3...
I feel exactly the same way. Season 1 - Season 4 up until Juliette left Nick was good and I was hoping that she could be an asset to the Scooby gang with her new powers but my gosh; Nick was so stupid to behave how he did with Juliette's transformation that it makes sense that she left him. The current season is cringe-worthy to be honest. I'm only watching it now for the keys and Eve's powers.
Almost all my friends have stopped seeing the show, the writers are to force a relationship without any kind of sense, I still see "Grimm" because I really love this show, but I'm pretty sad about the history, the relationship between the Nick and Adalind is so bad that the audience declined much, what they say in social networks and polls is nothing, what counts is always the ratings and the show, unfortunately, will not last much longer... :(
Yeah. My sister and I are having a hard time watching the show because of the new pairing. Seriously, I don't know how people ship Nick and Adalind but I'll take my own advice and respect other people's opinion. As for the ratings, Grimm has always had consistently low ratings because apparently people tend to watch it online than on TV and it airs on Friday nights where viewership is notoriously low. It might be green lighted for another season or then again it might not be but if it is given another season, I hope the writing is a damn sight better than it is this season. Btw, I made speculations as to what I think might happen in Season 5 on my blog. It's a bit long but feel free to comment. I think the Nadalind folks on this site may not appreciate it much but I didn't write it for their benefit.
I'll see the season 5 to the end, but I tell you if Nick and Adalind stay together I stop watching the show, a relationship based on Stockholm Syndrome, rape, disrespect and connected because of a baby whose its existence, to me, have no meaning, it is a relationship that does not tell me anything, I will not see a show which a relationship transmits values without any sense.
Agreed. I have other good shows to go on to if the writers continue the storyline they have going now for this season. Let's hope that the next episode will have more Nick and Monroe because the show is a lot better without Adalind IMO.
Noooo! Not Hank or Wu! Seriously Adalind has got to go. She's a sub-par Hexenbiest who can't cast spells properly and causes more harm with them than good. If she's only around because of her Wesen state, the show has a much better and more effective Hexenbiest on it already and I don't mean Renard's mother.
Agreed with this as well. We hardly see Kelly so I'm beginning to doubt his existence. Variety is very much needed and please hold the domestic! Adalind storyline; it's as boring as Renard's political campaign.
I don't know about using the word 'rape' if she enchanted the respective person to like her back and give consent - maybe magically manipulate is a better word. I understand that other people don't like the word being thrown around lightly and I completely respect that. But I agree that Adalind doesn't know the repercussions (or doesn't really care about the consequences) of her spells and the trouble it causes others. The people who support her this season can sometimes be quick to forget that and ask others to give her a chance at her new life. The tragedy is that she's been given more than one chance (maybe 6 or 7) to get her act together and she's let the viewers down each time. So yeah, I don't believe this house thing she has going on with Nick will last,. I think she'll get her powers back and align herself with Meisner (poor dude) to save her own neck, which quite frankly, is the only thing she's good at.
You know, I try to keep an open mind about characters but with Adalind, she's done nothing but bad things for four consecutive seasons so it's very hard for me to accept that she's changed for the better in just 9 horribly cliche episodes. I don't believe it and I don't buy it.
The end of Nick and Adalind stupid romance, It's disgusting.
I want to see a conclusion of the war between HW and Black Claw, i want more Wu, I like Wu ;), It is still a bit early to say much more than that. :D
Haha yeah. I predicted in my blog that HW (or more Eve) will bring an end to Black Claw and that HW will be the new villains and will seek to destroy Eve. Adalind will be all for it and will align herself with Meisner but Nick will protect Eve and the sides will be reversed (in a way that I like infinitely better than what's on now). And yes to more Wu; he's the best character in the whole show.
Yeah. I don't know how they support her but you need to remember that some of the people who support her and wish death on Juliette/Eve are the people who didn't like Juliette since season 1 because she was 'boring' and 'useless'. I kinda know how they felt now because I'm complaining about Adalind being boring and sickeningly simpering and domestic. I applaud the Juliette haters; they were able to put up with their dislike for domestic Juliette for four seasons. After 9 episodes of domestic Adalind, I'm ready to call it quits.
No don't get me wrong! I absolutely loved Juliette in all her forms (not the Kelly murder though :(). She was incredibly supportive of Nick and put up with all his Grimm rubbish for a long time. But when the time came for him to accept her for her changed identity, he completely rejected her. Did he really expect her to stay and work things out with him after he pulled a gun on her after her first woge, decided to sleep on the couch and not join her in their room afterwards and then not even look at her even if she wasn't woged? Did he expect her to drink a potion to regain her humanity after she found out that he was having a baby with the woman who caused her predicament and who made her the potion? Did he really expect her to walk him down the aisle and throw the other wench in question a baby shower after taking said dubiously prepared potion? Seriously, I'm as angry at Nick as I am at Adalind. He is so naive, incredibly insensitive and stupid. Monroe, Rosalee and Hank's reactions and inability to understand Juliette didn't help either so I'm equally mad at them too.
Exactly. If I were Nick at that time, I would have comforted and reassured her that it was ok and then most importantly, ask her if she wanted the Hexenbiest spirit to go away or to keep it. The reason being is that living with a Grimm, let alone promising the future to one is a dangerous risk to a normal human. 'Useless' and 'boring' Juliette was able to protect herself very well with her new powers and not need Nick's help when the things that came after him came after her as well. If I were Nick, I would have thought of that first and supported Juliette with whatever decision she decided to make. I believe if he was understanding like this in the first instance, she wouldn't have gone homicidal crazy on everyone (understandably because everyone was shunning her). The new season has all the gang on crazy gas. They need to wake up and switch up sides already.
That's one way of putting it. Nick did try his hardest to win Juliette back and make sure she was safe but all of that was unnecessary if he had first asked her what she wanted in the first place. Poorly done Nick and co. I'm tempted to say that he really doesn't deserve Juliette or anyone for that matter and should live his life like the typical Grimm: alone.
Lol; maybe Juliette can find herself a nice Zauberbiest fella and bond. You know, the gang are going on about Juliette/Eve having no remorse for what she's done but umm Adalind hasn't really apologized for what she's done either. Another wiki user said that she had placed cookies alongside the table Hank and Wu were near at the housewarming in the previous episode. Seriously. Hank was put into a red eyed coma and Wu ate his own carpet because of her inability to bake. Bet you all 20 books of the new 'trailer' that she's not sorry about that.
Lol. You know we're ranting about all this and any person who sees this on the wiki will think two Juliette fanatics are writing hate messages against the show. It's just our opinion and whether this is perceived as support or hate is completely in the perspective of the person looking in.
I am not a Juliette fanatic neither a Adalind Hater, I am a "Nadalind" hater, because that relationship makes no sense too me, and for me Adalind is the responsible for all bad things, she is, indirectaly, the one turn Juliette in a crazy hexenbiest.
Yap, If Nadalind will actually happen, I will not get to watch what happens next. For me will be RIP Grimm and Grimm was my favorite show, but now I am really sad, never a show disappointed me so much!
I know! This is simply outrageous. Nick doesn't want a safe family life with a woman who has loved him for 4 seasons and instead opts for a family with a witch who has given him grief for the same amount of time? Yeah, no I don't think so. I try to respect other peoples' opinions but I'm at a loss for words for why people support Nadalind. The whole enemies falling in love thing actually works for me if there isn't already a nice supportive woman in the guy's life. >.>
Yeah. Where the supporters came from, I have no clue. They say that it's obvious that Nadalind liked each other from the beginning, but they must've been watching a different show to what we were watching o.o
People blame Renard but hey, she's the one who mixed the potion to take away Nick's powers. If she had understood that her child's safety was more important as Kelly had told her in the precinct, she wouldn't have done something so stupid.
Yeah. She came to him to protect her from Juliette who was rightfully trying to kill her. Shameless woman. I love kids but seriously, birth control! I want a lady other than Adalind to have kids on this show.
I feel you bro, I just lost my will to see my favorite show, I am really, really sad, Grimm is my favourite show and I am so mad, its mix of feelings, I make a promise to myself, I gonna watch until the end of season 5, if this really happen i drop, but something tells me everything is gonna change, lets wait!
Adalind is manipulative, the first thing she ask to Nick in episode 2 of season 5, if Nick slep next to her.... Really?! Adalind only wants someone can protecter, she is a little *****, ***** and a little *****
Just wait! She wants her daughter back, they think she is with the Royals, but actually is with a "friends" of Meisner, possibly with the Resistance, and we both know that people do not change overnight... more twists are coming...
Oh I see :D Well I understand what the writers are trying to do, it's just that I don't buy it. It's happening as fast as Romeo and Juliet tied the knot so to speak and we all know how that relationship ended.
Lol! You know, you should keep calm about the latest storyline events in Grimm. You can't change people's opinions, the only thing that can be done is see how the story unfolds. We should just discuss our opinions here because we both agree with each other :D
Yaguaraté wrote: Oh I see :D Well I understand what the writers are trying to do, it's just that I don't buy it. It's happening as fast as Romeo and Juliet tied the knot so to speak and we all know how that relationship ended.
Business wise: Personally, I think they're trying to annoy fans of the show who don't like Adalind because going forward in a show like this, you need to connect with the audience and generate some sort of interest to keep them watching, even if it is negative interest.
Storyline wise: I think they wrote themselves into a corner with Adalind's second pregnancy (because they placed that in to coincide with the actress' real pregnancy and to up the drama factor of the show) and now they're seeing where the story takes them in the natural progression of things. To make it more believable however, I would have thought the writers would have waited a bit longer before Nick and Adalind did the deed. This episode's events reminded me too much of a soap opera on that front so it wasn't believable.
I like the episode, but I expected more from episode 100th, the scenes that I enjoyed the most was to see Eve, but most Grimmsters like more Adalind scenes, why!? :(, I'm really sad, the "Nadalind" shippers are increasing a lot, I hope Eve stay more emotional, she is already a badass ;), I really hope everything will change in the last episodes of the season...
I really don't know, Seeing what I see in social networks, the writers will not disappoint most of fans, the writers perhaps will give attention to fans and make "Nadalind" really happen, with these ratings, the writers must be desperate...
NAdalind fans to watch Afterbuzz on YouTube. Grimm writer Jeff Miller was on and based on what he said Nadalind fans should keep watching. It makes me ill, but thank goodness NCAA basketball will be starting, so I'll watch that or anything other than Nadalind.