Seems kind of obvious they rushed the finale, but they missed a golden opportunity. When the Grimms were fighting The Destroyer, they should have had dozens of Grimms from various time periods ghosting in and slashing him with weapons. The way they built up to it, that's what I was expecting instead of the rather bland fight we got.
What's on your mind?
This was in the weapons thread and has digressed to another topic entirely so I thought I would put it here. I have been intrigued about the plot to get Diana back from Kelly and the many pitfalls that occurred that night.
Briefly, after having enough of Adalind's plodding, Kenneth decides to bring someone much more knowledgeable about Diana's whereabouts, the all powerful and irritable Juliette. Kenneth makes it plain from the getgo that he doesn't trust Juliette, but still uses her anyway. They hatch a plan, do some meticulous drawings on how to make it work, and by sending an innocent looking email, manage to get Kelly to come to Nick's house immediately and with Diana.
My thought on this is that Kenneth never expected Kelly to show up with Diana. Like most mothers in charge of children, he figured Kelly would naturally bring Nick in on this. She didn't and I think Kenneth switched to a plan of negotiating with her. In other words the royals get Diana. Kelly gets her life. That of course has been soundly disagreed with and that's perfectly fine. It is, after all, my supposition. But what exactly was the objective that night? Consider the following:
1. Kelly never left Portland and holed up somewhere nearby with Diana. Why?
Next, the ambush and attack. GrimmPower writes:
Kelly arrived and was attacked the moment she let Diana true the front door. We heard beating and screaming, before Kenneth enters the house with blood on his face, saying: “we got her”, looking at Diana, before adding” “and we got HER”. It was a pure ambush and execution, only made possible by Juliette abusing the trust placed in her by Nick. There was no reason for Kelly not to trust Juliette when she told her the house was safe..
2. The attack/ambush was completely unplanned. Keep in mind that the masterminds, Juliette and Kenneth have already carefully drafted up plans for the objective, which was to obtain Diana. An attack or ambush is the last thing they would want.
3. Taking it outside.
Again, the two masterminds would have planned everything to detail. When Kenneth orders that Kelly be taken outside, it's very clear that that was never in the plan either.
4. The neighborhood. Juliette provides Kenneth with names and locations of neighbors. Kenneth decides on which are key locations and has the neighbors murdered. It's never made clear why this is necessary. The objective was to get Kelly in the house and take Diana. The neighbors or their dwellings would have no impact on that objective.
5. The beheading. The objective was getting Diana, yet these people hang around for a beheading? It's never made clear why they would have the time or reasoning for this.
6. Rispoli tells the king that there was a setback and the Grimm "got away". Nick was never a part of the objective. It was always about Diana.
7. How many verrat does it take? For this objective, the most they might need one or two. I'm not sure how many they brought with them. Ten maybe?
You know, after the Council was wiped out, they never went back to what happened to Alexander. What happened to him? Did he live? Did he die? Did he eventually join Black Claw? I mean, WHAT HAPPENED?!
Were in this episode at the beginning.
Lost all respect for the character writing at this point
Just watched this episode, at the beginning when Nick and Munroe are talking about the crossbow... Nick says that the 1st bolt is a tranquilizer and the 2nd is hemlock, which is lethal. Well, it is lethal, but takes about 30 mins before symptoms start to show, can be hours. Seems like a faster acting poison would be better?
I’m a huge Grimm fan. I’ve watched the entire series 4 times, I have a “Grimm Wall” in my house.. I absolutely love it. So sad that it was cancelled but supernatural is still on. Smh.
Okay, so I’ve watched the gag reels and deleted scenes. I was iMessaging my mom recently and went to send a “Grimm” gif and stumbled upon one of Nick hugging Adalind in the Nick/Juliette house.
One had some writing like “I’m going to be a father!” I cannot find it anywhere. I looked on all of the dvds, nothing. I’ve looked everywhere online and it’s just started to bug me that it doesn’t seem to exist. I know that it was just the cast having fun and stuff but I really love the funny stuff the did while filming and just want to know where this originated from? Can someone / anyone help me. Lol. PLEASE!
during the episode "red menace" it appears that nick is the only one that can see the Koschie hands. with renard asking him if he sees anything?
i have just finished the last episode and it's 5 am.
i can't understand why didn't nick tell everyone what had happened in God knows what dimension was that? i mean, you saw them dying and you didn't take the time to talk about that? i would've liked to see that discussion.
and i am very happy that Diana and Kelly work with their parents but why on earth did Diana said that they've "got wesens to kill"? now they kill wesens for fun or what?
and does anybody know how to get over this 'breakup'?
Firstly, if you're wondering why I'm talking about a Season 2 episode, it's because I'm on my 5,000,000th re-watch of Grimm.
In this episode, we learn that Lance Calvin stole money from 2 struggling churches. We also learn that he framed others for this embezzlement and killed them in the hope that the police would believe that they fled the country. However, Norman Brewster's prosthetic hip foils this plan and Calvin is eventually found out. The members of Calvin's congregation don't take kindly to the deception and unite to mete out vigilante justice. Some would say that Calvin got what he deserved.
However, the money is not returned to the church. Instead, Megan Marston (who is an accessory to TWO murders and is complicit in the embezzlement of over three-quarters of a million dollars) is seen enjoying a luxurious cabana, along with Harmony. Meanwhile, the fleeced* church-goers are handed over to the District Attorney.
I'm not saying that every episode should have a happy and just ending (the Brothers Grimm certainly wouldn't), but this ending is really strange in this regard. It's an incredibly unfair outcome, yet it's presented as a happy ending (even the music "I'm H-A-P-P-Y" suggests this).
Does anybody else find the ending of this episode slightly jarring?
*bad pun intended
Do any of you remember in 'The End', where Kelly and Aunt Marie told Nick "We are all decendants of the first Grimm"? Then where did the first Grimm come from?
Too bad they cut off the scene where Adalind was sorry to everyone during the house warming party.
where are those Druid stones located? Oregon? Washington?
Is it a Stonehenge recreation?
i think kelly is Grimm with hexenbiest's power u know am sayin
or Grimm with hexenbiest/zauberbiest power idk what is right but i think this is very close about truth
and i hope im not crazy ♥
what u think about?!
SERIES FINALE - NICK MUST LOOK TO HIS ANCESTORS FOR STRENGTH TO SAVE THE WORLD FROM A TERRIFYING END - JACQUELINE TOBONI, HANNAH R. LOYD AND WIL TRAVAL GUEST STAR - Nick (David Giuntoli) faces off against his greatest foe yet as it seems no weapon can defeat him. At the Spice Shop, Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell), Rosalee (Bree Turner) and Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) search for answers and stumble upon a rare potion that may help the fight. Elsewhere, Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) and Adalind (Claire Coffee) try to keep Diana (Hannah R. Loyd) and baby Kelly safe as the threat has its eyes set on the children. Russell Hornsby and Reggie Lee also star.
SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES - JACQUELINE TOBONI, HANNAH R. LOYD AND WIL TRAVAL GUEST STAR - The prophecy that was uncovered comes to pass when a dark force arrives in Portland with its eyes set on Diana (guest star Hannah R. Loyd). In an effort to protect her, Nick (David Giuntoli), along with Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) and Adalind (Claire Coffee), returns to the scene of his first investigation as a Grimm. Back at the Spice Shop, Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell), Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) and Rosalee (Bree Turner) make a discovery that uncovers the origins of the mysterious stick. Meanwhile, Hank (Russell Hornsby) and Wu (Reggie Lee) are called to a crime scene that is connected to the gang's greatest threat.
A MYSTERIOUS PORTAL TAKES EVE AND NICK ON A SURPRISING JOURNEY - Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) goes on a mission to take on the mysterious force she saw in the mirror and finds herself in unfamiliar territory. When the gang discovers what she has done, Nick (David Giuntoli) finds a way to join her. Meanwhile, an uneasy alliance is established when Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) is brought in to help and discovers this all may be connected to the person he cares for the most, Diana (guest star Hannah R. Loyd). Russell Hornsby, Silas Weir Mitchell, Reggie Lee, Bree Turner and Claire Coffee also star.
A STRING OF BRUTAL DEATHS MAY BE TIED TO AN UNLIKELY PERPETRATOR - After a series of brutal and deadly attacks, Nick (David Giuntoli) and Hank (Russell Hornsby) find an unlikely lead in a local nursing home. Meanwhile, Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) goes to Adalind (Claire Coffee) to get answers that only a Hexenbiest can provide. Elsewhere, Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) confronts Nick about the mysterious symbols and tries to strike a deal. Silas Weir Mitchell, Reggie Lee and Bree Turner also star.
NATURE TURNS ON ENVIRONMENTAL VIOLATORS - Nick (David Giuntoli), Hank (Russell Hornsby) and Wu (Reggie Lee) are called to the scene of the crime where a man claims his friend was consumed by a tree-like figure. Meanwhile, after the gang learns of Eve's (Bitsie Tulloch) disturbing mirror encounter, everyone takes extra precautions. Elsewhere, Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) searches for answers to what Diana (guest star Hannah R. Loyd) was drawing. Silas Weir Mitchell, Bree Turner and Claire Coffee also star.
WHEN LOSS MEETS SCIENCE AN UNSTOPPABLE CREATION ARISES - VIK SAHAY GUEST STARS - Deadly attacks on a team of scientists lead Nick (David Giuntoli), Hank (Russell Hornsby) and Wu (Reggie Lee) on an investigation unlike any they have had before. Meanwhile, as the research continues into the origins of the cloth, Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell) and Rosalee (Bree Turner) learn that Eve (Bitsie Tulloch) is still feeling the after effects of the death grip. Elsewhere, Capt. Renard (Sasha Roiz) reaches out to an old friend to get answers to the origins of the symbols drawn by Diana.