Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-25875828-20160301103151

lets recap that actual physical harm done. when comparing the difference  between Juliette and Adalind's actions.

From the beginning Adalind was working for personal gain. We will start with the attempt to kill Mari. When she failed the reapers where brought in. She then poisons Hank for personal gain. Again she fails is stripped of her powers. the only way to save  Hanks life. Instead of retaliating against who took her powers she attacks his girl friend who would have died if Rosalee and Sean had not intervened. don't forget Adalind was retaliating for what Nick did to save Hanks life, preventing ADalind from being a murder.

For Juliette their is the bar scene. She beats up a guy that thinks buying her drinks makes him entitled to something. He got what he deserved, for the disrespect. yes Juliette caused harm, compared to having your mind toyed with. Can you really say the bar was worse.The mean looks and nasty comments can not cause physical harm. They are adults get over it. In the station baby mama drama so what. Juliette had reason to be upset. Again no physical harm. Juliette's retaliation by burning the trailer, even Juliette admitted that was a little out of control. I will even admit it was way out of control. Like Adalind attacking Juliette with the cat scratch. Both where the result of  misplaced anger. The difference Adalind almost killed someone. Her retaliation was against something done to save a life. Juliette destroyed possessions that we now see have been replaced for no other reason then being one angry female.

Lets take the spice shop. Juliette put Monroe in danger but it was never attempted murder. She had control of the gun. Nick has previously stated when she shot at Sean. "If she had wanted to shot him she would. She is a better shot then that". In wesenrein we saw Juliette has no problem pulling the trigger and delivering a deadly shot. If she was going to shot Monroe she would have shot him. Was it cruel to taunt them yes. The argument that they where her friends and the love of her life. When they refused to accept her as a hexenbiest. Insistent she suppress who she was, the friendship ended. Was she justified, that's and opinion. I only want facts. To consider if justified, It should be considered. It is a little much to expect someone to show tolerance and show understanding. When they have been changed permanently.To decide if  Juleitte not accepting their offer being right or wrong is subjective. The reason and Justification does not change, that no physical harm occurred. Maybe being slammed against the cabinets would hurt. But monroe is Blutbad, I think it would take more then being slammed to hurt him.

Let's admit when Juliette tormented them, it was out of anger. When Adalind tormented Nick and Hank. It was for personal gain. Lets look at how Adalind handles romantic rejection. She sleeps with Sean, has his child, then sells the child for her powers back. Sure she changed her mind. But she went as far as signing the contract. Even if it is void. She still signed it. showing intent.

Then we have the biggie. Kelly's death. Might I remind you. That all started with Adalind telling the Royals that Kelly had Diana. Diana was given to Kelly in the first place to protect her. Viktor vowed to kill all of them till he got Diana. That whole argument that Adalind would have been a good mother. or it is cruel taking a child from it's mother. They all exclude the how where they going to keep Diana and not die. I can only figure the ones advocating Adalind should have keep Diana don't believe Viktor would have killed everyone. I think the dead leader of the varette might have a different opinion. After being lied to and tortured. Viktor buys Adalind new cloths now she is all on board to help get Kelly to come back to Portland. Remember Adalind was so intent on getting Kelly to return. She went to the house to beat the information about Kelly out of Juliette. Does Nick even realize he is now actually sleeping with the one who identified his mom. Set in motion that Juleitte was the key to contacting Kelly. The amazing part Adalind even tells Sean, Viktor is going to kill them once he has Diana. But she still continues to side with the Roylas. Till the Roylas throw her to a pissed off Juleitte.

With no where else to run, her fault or not. Juleitte turns to the Roylas and helps complete Adalinds plain. Here is another thing, Adalind is sleeping with Nick whose mother killed hers. Does she realize she is against the women that avenged her mothers death. That may not have been Juliette intent. But Juliette did kill Adalind's mother killer.

lets total the actual harm created. Emotional harm is subjective and can't be quantified. Adalind had two attempted murders for personal gain. Mari and Hank with hank suffering physical harm. You have the attempted murder on juliette as revenge against Nick. A case of misplaced anger that should have been directed toward Nick. sold her child. She recanted but she still followed through. Put into motion what ended in the death of Kelly.

Juliette she burnt the trailer, another example of misplaced anger. The result is lost of valuable property. Adalinds attack ended in physical harm to Juliette. Juliette only other act causing physical harm was participating in the completion of what Adalind started.

This entire post recounts events. It does not include any subjective acts. it only includes only things that have a physical documentable result. unlike the previous response there are no opinions are emotional justifications. Both of which would be subjective. Fact for fact finding Juliette worse has no merit.

 