Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-86.145.40.63-20160616141202/@comment-197.91.184.209-20171114075609

-What about Sean and Viktor who instructed Adalind to go after Marie, Hank and Nick's powers, you should ask for their deaths too because they told her what to do. -Wu only got hurt because he ate Hank's cookies, Adalind didn't intend to hurt him. -Adalind never hurt Monroe or Rosalee, that was Juliette when she tried to force Nick to shoot his best friend. -The only thing Adalind did on her own without someone else telling her what to do, was the cat scratch poison that put Juliette in a coma and later made her an amnesiac with Sean obsessed with each other. -If Nick and his mother never stole Diana and told her the Royals had her,she wouldn't have gone to Viktor who told her to take Nick's Grimm powers, remember Nick originally took her powers away first by forcefully kissing her, that's why she was able to take his. They both sexually assaulted one another for reasons not because they wanted to. -Nick didn't give up on Juliette, she gave up on him. Nick was trying to find ways to reverse her hexenbiest status but she told him she liked it and didn't want to change and then went on a violent rampage against Nick. -Nick didn't kill Adalind because after three episodes of the show, he was still acting more like a cop. He was commanded to protect her. She manipulated him into obeying his order. As the show progressed he became more Grimm and less a cop so it made it easier to kill bad wesen. He also didn't kill her after he took her powers because she was human and defenseless, his cop instincts were still in full effect and couldn't have known she would be dangerous after. -Adalind was a corporate lawyer not a criminal defense lawyer so she never let hundreds of murderers go free. We've seen Nick actually let some criminals go. -Adalind did want to sell diana for her powers but once she gave birth, she realised she actually loved her daughter and decided to keep diana. People make mistakes and live to regret those decisions and thus choose to make beter choice. This was adalind until they stole her baby and was deceived into thinking someone else had her. -For four seasons, adalind never got away with the things she did. She lost her powers, her mother rejected her, she lost diana, she was tortuted by viktor, sean and kenneth abandoned her to be killed even though they knew she was pregnant and was trying to find diana. -Nick ins't exempt from the consequences of his actions. He can't judge adalind forever when he knows he gave as good as he got from adalind and he can't really take baby kelly away from her because he knows that by kidnapping diana years ago so many people suffered for his and his mother's actions, juliette became a murderous hexenbiest, hus neighbours as well as mother died as a result. It's better to learn from the mistakes of the past that repeat them. -Adalind learnt from her mistakes that's why she made better decisions for baby kelly and she never went back to her evil ways. -Adalind wasn't the only obe forgiven, so was juliette for almost killing monroe, for her part in kelly's death. -Relationships aren't perfect, Nick isn't perfect. Relationships sometimes end for far less than what we saw with Nick and Juliette. Nick isn't batman, he's Nick. We are all individuals, driven by our own unique emotions, circumstances and experiences. Nick can only act as himself, not another fictional character written but different writers. -Nick loved juliette but he wasn't the best boyfriend. He lied, kept secrets and as a result couldn't adequately protect juliette. His aunt warned him that juliette would be in danger but he didn't listen. -Nick worked together with his friends. They helped him with information and potions but he was the one that did the most fighting with monroe, hank and later wu helping in the fights. If nick was as useless as you claim why were they desperate to restore his abilities? At the end of the show, nick was the only one left standing, then trubel came back when facing the biggest bad, not his friends. You don't like nick depicted as the "hero" of the show but what do you expect on a show called Grimm about a grimm called Nick Burkhardt? -Grimm is a fantasy world with fairytale tendencies, especially in s1. You can't appply real world rules in a fantasy world where people turned to animal like creatures. Grimms were written as guardians of the world between the natural and the supernatural, real world doesnt fully apply as seen with grimms defeating the skull guy supernaturally, not with guns and whatever natural rules nick could have applied as a cop. -nick trusted juliette but she worked with the people that killed his mom. Juliette must take responsibility of her own actions in the destruction of her relationship woth nick. The only innocent people on this show were baby kelly and Bud. -Juiette should have left nick several times, at least once in each season. He lied to her in s1. He brought wesen danger into her life in s1 and s2. She didn't believe he was faithful in s3 and had accused him of cheating several times. He couldn't give up the grimm in S4 when she wanted a normal life. She chose to pursue a relatiinship with him, he didn't force her. She finally left when she realised he wanted her back as human juliette not hexenbiest but instead of leaving to live the life that would make her happy, she went on to destroy him but hurting those he loved, monroe and his mother. He did tell her that he would try to accept her like sge accepted his grimm but juliette was no longer interested. She even threatened his baby at the precinct. Juliette was independent, let her be responsible for her decisions and actions. -Nick loved juliette, unfortunately it wasn't enough for their relatuonship because they had other problems that they simply couldn't resolve, like open and honest communucation. Nick and adalind basically had the same problems, if not worse at the end of the day, they communicated, wanted the same thingsvin life or more like nick's grimm and adalind's hexenbiest wouldn't get in the way of what they wanted, a family for kelly and eventually fell in love with the woman she had become. -Lastly, this show is fictional but just like real life, there are no perfect people who love one another perfectly. Don't expect more from a show about a made up world with made up people with made up problems written imperfectly because you're only setting yourself up for disappointment. This show was about Grimm nick burkhardt, not nick and juliette, or nick and adalind or even nick and his friends, hence the writers focused on him mainly and the other characters revolved around him as either his lovers, or friends, or allies, or enemies or all of the above. It's his story, not juliette's.