Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-3125844-20151212083631/@comment-26235944-20151214072720

(P) Macabros77 wrote: @Lurkenfrau.

If your honest, your are only mad that a minority of us believed in Juliette and her return and you others were wrong. A personal attack, Macabros? Meowch. That's a really catty thing to say...and no, you're wrong about that. I'm not mad about that, nor do I begrudge the glee that Juliette-fans are experiencing from having her return. If you will recall correctly...I was never a Juliette-hater. I just hated all the horrible things that the character did when they changed her from good to evil. I was excited when Juliette got her super powers and was looking forward to her being a powerful member of the Scooby gang. And I don't recall ever saying that she would "never return". I believed them when they said she was dead, so I didn't think there was much hope of her coming back. I remember saying that maybe they turned her evil because they were going to kill off the Juliette character, because that is something that shows often do. I also remember speculating that perhaps the actress, Bitsie Tulloch, wanted off the show in order to take other roles...or that there might have been some sort of behind the scenes reason for her leaving. Of course this was all speculation based on the showrunners telling us that "Juliette is dead" and "She's gone." (P) Macabros77 also wrote: I once brought the example with Anakin Skywalker. Luke asked Ben, why he didn't tell him that his father was still alive. Bens answer was that it depends from our point of view. In the moment Darth Vader arised Anakin Skywalker was dead. Yes, but that's different...they showed us Darth Vader first and then later showed us how Anakin turned into Darth Vader. The producers didn't show Anakin being killed, then confirm in interviews that "Anakin is dead"...and then bring him back later. (P) Macabros77 also wrote: Old Juliette is dead, now we face the new Eve. So the writers didn't lie, they only let place for interpretation. No, they didn't make that distinction by saying "Old Juliette is dead". I wish they had, but they didn't. (P) Macabros77 also wrote: No, your not stupid,. You only wanted to believe she's dead how other people (like me) didn't accept her death. No, it's not that I "wanted to believe she's dead"...I simply believed what the showrunners told us. It made sense out of their trashing the character of Juliette, that they did that to prepare us for killing off the character. But thanks for saying I'm not stupid. There is an old saying..."Fool me once, shame on You. Fool me twice, shame on Me." Now that I see how the Executive Producers of a show will lie bold-facedly to their viewers...I will never believe anything they say ever again. (P) Macabros77 also wrote: And the title want change in Hexenbiest it will stay Grimm, but Wesen will have to decide if they want another world or live in this world with humans.

Like X-men against the "Brotherhood" of Magneto

And no. I don't want that she fights with the Scooby-Gang. They didn't accept her new out-coming. They could accept Adalind but not Juliette.

Juliette/ Eve should play a loner, like a "Dark Angel" appearing when things get worse. We will have to wait and see how they handle this, going forward. I didn't like seeing Nick acting so helpless in that final scene of 'Wesen Nacht'...they did this to create the need for JuliEve to save him, of course. So I hope they aren't going to repeat this scenario. Nick took down 3 Phansigars one time...and took out 4 Verrat another time...but now, he is helpless against ONE Skalengeck? It makes no sense.