Board Thread:Episode Discussion/@comment-3125844-20150707234627/@comment-26235944-20150712042313

Grimmaniac wrote: Bheadr27 wrote: If she really had wanted to apologize to Nick, why did she end up in not only not doing it, but in trying to kill or get killed? Did her last remnants of humanity fade the moment Nick wasn't able to kill her? Or was her 'do it' her apology? In her words at least there was only a lame excuse but never a word of apology... Remember that scene where Juliette found out that Nick had gotten away (Rispoli was on speaker phone)? For a moment, it looked like she was relieved. Call it a shred of humanity, some feelings she still had for Nick, but whatever it was, I do think she had some remorse that she was responsible for Kelly being killed. The way Frederick had been talking to her the whole episode, he sure seemed dead set on bringing Juliette back to Austria. Whatever reason Juliette had to not get on the chopper, it must've been a "good" one.

Sorry Grimmaniac, I agree with Bheadr on this. I didn't hear Juliette say anything that was an 'apology'...and I didn't see any remorsefulness in her demeanor either. You're right, King Frederick did seem interested in Juliette returning with him...but that was before Nick and the gang showed up at the mansion. The King had already demonstrated that Kenneth was disposable. Then he demonstrated that Rispoli was disposable as well, when he told Rispoli that "We'll be gone" if Rispoli didn't return in 60 seconds. 60 seconds? What could anyone have gotten done in 60 seconds? Perhaps the King told her...'If Rispoli fails to kill the Grimm, I need you to do it for me. You must remain here and see that this is done for me.' Juliette doesn't want to take on the whole gang at the mansion...so she gets in one of the vehicles there and goes to the house, where she waits for Nick.

Grimmaniac also wrote: I think what changed when she encountered Nick was the fact that Nick attacked her. I have my doubts about this, but perhaps if Nick hadn't done or said anything, Juliette would've said her piece and then walked out, but I think after Nick attacked her but couldn't kill her, she basically felt that it was either she lives and Nick dies, or she dies and Nick lives. That's how warped and messed up her logic and personality had become at that point.

Yeaah...I don't know if it would've made a difference, though, if Nick hadn't attacked her. Because she said..."You can't put me out of your misery, huh? I hope you're not going to tell me you're still in love with me." Juliette seemed to be repulsed by the fact that he still loved her too much to kill her. When Nick suggested they go their separate ways, Juliette says..."After all I've done for you, do you think I can just leave it like this?" If she hadn't said that, I would tend to agree that she decided to kill him after he attacked her. But...she did say that. So I think we're supposed to think that she came back to kill Nick. She gave him the opportunity to kill her, and when he didn't...it was back to 'Kill Nick".