Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-26235944-20150518042646/@comment-26235944-20150609045337

82.21.236.214 wrote: I thought Josh left before Nick got his powers back. Not that it matters, because Nick was careful to let Trubel do all the grimm stuff around Josh. Like you, Nick may have thought Josh was fishing for information.

They showed us Josh arriving back home in Philadelphia, with Hundjagers in his house, in episode 405 - Cry Luison. [He was holding his father's ashes - I thought it was sort of funny that he threw them at the Hundjagers.] Then later in that episode, they showed Josh on a bus calling Nick...Nick told him to "go somewhere safe". Nick didn't have his powers back yet in that episode. But by the time Josh showed up at Nick's house, in the following episode, Highway of Tears, Nick had just gone through the potion thing with Juliette, the night before. Nick was off working the Phansigars case, and didn't know about Josh coming to his house...or about Chavez and her guys there watching Trubel. Nick had gotten his powers back by the time he finished dealing with the Phansigars and returned home. So Josh was never around Nick when he wasn't a Grimm. I'm sure that Trubel told him about it, though. But Josh always seemed to regard Nick as the 'senior Grimm' in the scheme of things...even though he spent more time with Trubel.

82.21.236.214 also wrote: If Trubel, Chavez and her team are all in Portland, who is guarding Josh? Good question. Maybe Chavez left a couple of her guys with Josh at his house? That doesn't seem very likely though. Trubel told Bud when he asked about Josh, that "He's fine"...but we don't know what that means.

82.21.236.214 also wrote: I'm sure the Group itself has a nice big secret headquarters.

I hope so! Maybe Chavez had a couple of her guys take Josh there, to keep him safe until they figure out what to do with him.

82.21.236.214 also wrote: Chavez and co are FBI agents, which means their taskforce is an approved FBI one, even if it spends most of its time working on wesen related matters for the Group. Must mean Trubel is an FBI agent.

We don't know this for sure, though...Chavez first showed up with Special Agent Rosten, at Nick's house in episode 401, to investigate Weston Steward's death. Then we saw Agent Rosten again with her at the FBI office. But the guys that Chavez used to kidnap Trubel at the end of episode 402 were not in suits...and they didn't really seem to be FBI agents. Doesn't mean they weren't, though, FBI agents don't always wear suits. The Pflichttreue watching the house was wearing a suit. So maybe he was an FBI agent, I don't know. He wasn't a part of the crew that kidnaped Trubel. But we didn't ever see Agent Rosten again. So we don't know if he was a part of detail who works in secret. As far as Trubel being an FBI agent now...I don't think so. It takes months of training to get to be an official agent, and with Trubel's record, I'm not sure she would even qualify. Maybe Chavez has her on as a 'consultant' or something.

82.21.236.214 also wrote: If the Wesen Council and the Group were connected, Chavez would have been back to speak with Nick already.

Who knows the Keys may have grown legs and left the Spice shop. I think that unless Bitsie returns to the show, the Keys won't figure in season 5.

Yeah, as I said, I don't think that Chavez's Group is connected with the Wesen Council...they've known for years that Nick is a Grimm. About the Keys...Josh even knows where the Keys are stashed. He was there at the Spice Shop, when Rosalee added his Dad's Key to the compartment under the floorboard. Not sure why you think that Juliette would be necessary for the storyline about the Keys to be revisited. The show runners mentioned that we would be seeing more about the Keys in Season 5. There are a lot of ways that they could bring the focus back to the Keys, I think.