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I have been trying to put my finger on what is changing with Juliette. She is showing less empathy. Empathy is part of what makes up your humanity. If Juliette starts to act like Prince kenneth or even Viktor then I would agree she is losing her humanity.

What I find interesting is Wu snarky responses are perceived as cute. With Juliette they are perceived as bitchy. It is because Juliette is angry that the snarky is coming across as mean.

The first time with the manticore. The old Juliette would have found a more sensative response. But as a hexenbiest you ask a dumb question you get a dumb answer. For Nick to come in see a dead manticore and ask "What the hell happen" that is a dumb question.

Up to this point she was really scared but not angry. She was starting to get frustrated that Nick had not even enquired as to what was wrong. day after day and Nick doesn't say anything about something being wrong. We now know he noticed but never said anything.

At was after Nicks response after the fight with Adalind that the anger kicked in. Juliette gets up the nerve to tell Nick. Now this is not "Honey I dented the car". Telling your loved one your a hexenbiest is above telling them your pregent or you have a terminal disease. But Nick is more concerend that she told Sean before him. Is that the first thing you worry about. On top of that he walks out.

Even the old Juliette would have felt betrayed and become angry. He then stays gone for a while and actually goes and works a case. Nice to see Nicks finds a strangers problem more important the what his girlfriend is going through. How does he know the change is not killing her. He does not even bother to find out.

By the time he gets back Juliette is mad. She is mad because he left her there to deal with it on her own. He did not even take the time to get some of the basic information about her condition. Something as simple as how are you feeling. This is someone whose subconsious blow up a car.

OK lets say, your girls a hexenbiest you may have to catch your breath. you might even need to go get a drink. As shown by juliette having a bottle on the table. But Nick comes back and can not even look at her. It was at that point when it was over, and all Juliette wanted to do was through his clothes out the door, or key his car. Instead she hit him where it hurts. She wanted Nick to feel all of the pain she was feeling at that moment.

Yes the old Juliette would have tried to empathize with Nick. The funny part is, this being her normal response is what people compain about her being whinny and passive. Juliette calls him on his being condensending she is now being bitchy. It just seems this character just can't win. I will admit I liked the passive Juliette, the Juliette that showed empathy. The Juliette that would not hurt your feelings. The Juliette that tries to be everyones friend. Since this is the type of person Nick is they seemed to be a really good couple.

The new Juliette, if she thinks something she will say it. Nothing is considered inappropriate. You take this no holds bard and add a large heap of anger. As the shows says Juliette is going dark. But even now Juliette realizes her responses are beyound anger. She finds herself saying a doing things without consideration of others feelings.

The promo in the spice shop gives us a very good look into who the new Juliette is. She comes in very contrite, being sensitive of Rosalee and not wanting to shock anyone. Then Nick shows up and questions her about if she had told Rosalee. Anger start to build. Then Nick get arrongant  about telling Hank. He did not feel the need to tell her about his being a Grimm. Anger builds even more. Then he gives her an ultimatum. That was it the full biest hit the fan.

I see where the story is going, and yes the journey is interesting. My only complaint. if you are going to make Juliette someone who no longer takes any bullst. Who you ask a dumb question you get a dumb answer. If you are going the Adalind route then get there. This mental ping pong is driving me nuts. I mean I get it shes mad, she feels alone,  the hexenbiest in her does not let her have empathy for the guilt Nick is feeling. I know I have showed a number of points where Nicks insensativity has exasperated the situation. But in Nicks defense the guilt must be way more painful then anything Juliette is feeling. If she had empathy she would see that. (David expresses that pain very well).

Then you see Sean he has sympathy for Juliette. But being zauberbiest he has no empathy. he is suck it up and deal with it. What you ae seeing now is her fear is she is losing empathy for her self. She is seeing she should care about what others think. Instead see doesn't care an just goes off.

I do find it interesting that neither Elizabeth, Henriettea, or even Kelly or Mari  show any signs of empathy. I like Henrietta "kill her or accept her". Or Mari Monroe there to protect her. She tells him take your best shot. Then there is Kelly she is so hard she does not even show sympathy for others. Even with her own son she is cold. There are a couple of moments when she seems to show some signs of humanity. But looking back it seems it was more of an ends to a means.

Then you have Trubel, who also is cold. When Rosale was showing her inner self by woging. Trubel showed no compassion for what Rosale was doing. Even Hank was uneasy. Then when Nick get his Grimm back, You see Trubel fighting to hold back any sign of emotion. OK like Kelly, Trubel being on the run there is no place for compassion if you plan to survive.

So now you have the dynamics of NIck, Hank, Wu, Rosale, and Monroe they only ones that act with a sense of humanity. You will have Kelly, Trubel, Adalind, and Sean who are by any means necessary. Shown by Kelly willing to take out Diana's mother and father to get her back. NOt a whole lot of compassion there. Then there is Juliette right in the middle. Inside she knows what is means to have compassion but she just doesn't care. It's about do what you have to do.

Just like Rosale and Monroe are a contridictions. I see juliette also becoming a contridiction. Sort of a hexenbiest with a sole. She won't be able to totally eliminate her sense of compassion which will be the source of her inner struggle to remain human. She will never go back to being the sensative Juliette, but she will learn to control her outbust. She will become more like Elizabeth.