Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-98.117.68.195-20150503215639/@comment-24399666-20160106235011

Brimmski wrote:

67.72.73.254 wrote:

Brimmski wrote: For people complaining about Adalind "raped" these guys, check the of rape. Actually, what Adalind did was rape as it included drugs (or spells) to coerce an unsuspecting victim into sex

Women are quite capable of raping a man. It happens more frequently than people realize and is not believed nor taken seriously when it does happen, especially in "institutional" situations between boys and women at those sites Actually not arguing that rape doesn't happen to men but its rare and men don't really complain lol.

But the drugs/spell was only Adalind, she "pretended" to be someone. Also rape is forcing someone to have sex with a person not "tricking them". Its like having sex with someone in total darkness lol. From the RAINN website:

"About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime." Compared to 1 in 10 for women, it is relatively small, but 3% of all American men is still a LOT of men.

There is a kind of rape called, "rape by fraud," which covers exactly what Adalind did to Nick. How well it's recognized legally seems to depend on where you are, so if you want a more clear-cut rape, just look at what she did to Hank. There's no significant difference between what she did to Hank and roofying somebody's drink and taking advantage of them.

You mention Monroe and his redemption. And while it's true that he's certainly a redeemed character and it's been implied since the pilot that he has a past that he isn't proud of... one of the first things he says in the pilot was, in response to Nick asking him how he stays away from eating little girls, "yoga, pilates, and a very strict diet regimen." We later see him participate in groups that are clearly patterned on AA. In other words, he stays on the up-and-up by working at it. Constantly. In  Iron Hans, he indicates that it's an ongoing struggle, and in Tribunal, even in the midst of everything he's going through, the act of ripping a throat out when he was trying to escape still clearly throws him.

That's generally what makes a good redemption story. Seeing somebody working at redeeming themselves. As opposed to seeing redemption come out of nowhere with no effort involved.