Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-35046448-20180319155447/@comment-44212457-20191023171159

72.213.50.19 wrote: 134.174.140.195 wrote: I understand where this sentiment is coming from, but you can think of it as the cost of being a Grimm. Nick's Aunt warned him in the Pilot episode (you could say it was more than just a warning actually, more like a strong recommendation) that he needed to leave Juliette in order to keep her out of harm's way. Of course, then his mother later advised him to the contrary. It's up to the fans in the end to decide which advice is best.

To me at least, I think Kelly was the one who was right in the end, and that's because in the final season, Eve tells Nick that despite everything that had happened, she accepted who she was and had become, telling him that everyone had changed for the better. I think by the finale, Eve was a stronger version of Juliette -- with more purpose, determination, but with Juliette's humanity and empathy still intact. Nick and Juliette may not have ended up together, but they both ended up better off I think. Of course, it took that final speech from Eve to officially convince Nick of this; so what was a very tragic event in the short term ended up being good in the long term. The series never went into what Adalind felt at the end. I wonder if she, like Eve, would say she's changed and has a purpose. Or would she just look confused and ask, "what do you mean?" Adalind wondered, aloud, (at least once, to Rosalee, prior to her suppressed powers returning) whether she (Adalind) could change. She even seemed worried about returning to her pre-Nick personality. So, I disagree. I don't think she would answer "what do you mean?" I think her attitude towards him changed after she finally got to know him. Unlike all the other characters on the show, until they started living together, she hadn't spent any time with Nick enough to realize he's not the typical Grimm of all the stories she's heard. I definitely think she made deliberate efforts to adapt herself into Nick's world. And he made deliberate efforts to adapt himself into accepting her.

On the other hand, I saw the Nick / Juliette relationship as always somewhat one-sided. What I saw was that Nick was constantly trying to make accomodations for Juliette and it hardly ever went the other way around with only one exception: when Juliette had to help Nick get his Grimm power back. The rest of the time, Nick was always trying to accomodate whatever Juliette wanted. For instance, there was a "memory" scene in season 2 of the day Nick and Juliette moved into their home, Juliette found Nick's Elvis lamp and gave him an ultimatium: her or the lamp. Now, perhaps she was only teasing when she said it but the end result was: she forced him to give up something he obviously loved. If Nick was my sweetheart and he had some goofy thing like that lamp when we merged our lives together, it wouldn't matter to me how butt-ugly the thing was: if he loved it, we'd keep it. She shouldn't have forced him to make that choice. That scene was actually when I began disliking Juliette. Because, to my mind, the choice basically boils down to: which do you love more? External appearances (ie, decorating your home with "nice things") or your sweetheart? That Juliette chose "external appearances" instead of her sweetheart says, to me, some pretty bad things about Juliette.