Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-27720018-20160906015503/@comment-41.13.28.244-20171203153859

You are too presumptuous about when or why people hated Juliette. As far as I am aware, Juliette has never been a fan favourite even when things between her and Nick were going well and Adalind was all the way in europe. I know I didn't like her from S1 and hoped she would leave Nick after she got her memory back. I didn't believe they were suited to each other. Nick's Grimm was a dividing line between them in some form or another, whether it was Nick's deception or Juliette sucking it up and contending with something she actually disliked deep down inside. They were simply going in two different direction emotionally as seen when she didn't want him to get his abilities back and nick did.

I do believe they loved each other, it just wasn't enough because they had different ideals and couldn't bridge the gap. Juliette eventully helped Nick become a grimm again but not because he wanted it and had felt incomplete, she did because Monroe was in danger and could have veen killed and they all thought nick as a grimm would save the day. Nick didnt ask her to do it, she offered and told him he had to be a grimm again.

Nick reacted not so lovingly to her becoming a hexenbeist but he was in shock and had to adjust to the change, including knowing that it couldn't be reversed. Nick never set stopped loving Juliette not even at the end when she tried to kill him after betraying his mother. His mistake was trying to fix the hexenbiest change in her and hold on to human Juliette and thinking he could get her back until Henrietta told him it was permanent. He told her that he would learn to accept her as what she had become but walked away from him not the other way round.

Juliette was the one who got angry at him for trying to keep anything from happening to Adalind's baby. She took that one gesture as him chosing Adalind over her which was the case. Nick didn't even like Adalind at that time, in fact he hated her but she was telling him that she was pregnant with his baby, juliette was willing to sacrifice the baby as long as she got to kill Adalind. No matter what, Nick couldn't stand aside and let it happen if he really was the father of that baby. Juliette overrracted and chose to stew in her misplaced anger at Nick even though he was trying to find a way to help her and stay together.

I think you are also wrong about nick and Adalind beibg independent. From the very beginning of the show nick wanted to to marry and possibly start a family. His childhood is what informed his desire for family. Once adalind had diana, she wanted to be a better person for her children and give them a life she never had, she fell in love with nick and suddenly she, him and kelly were like a family and wanted to hold on to that. They both did.

The difference between Nick/Juliette and Nick/Adalind is that adalind could relate to the wesen world in such that she never held it against him when he did his grimm thing. She accepted his place in that world because she was already a part of that world. When nick lost his grimm, he felt like abpart of him was missing, adalind had been through the exact same thing when nick took her powers away. Adalind didn't grow to resent Nick's grimm as juliette did in S4.

Nick starting and continuing a relationship with adalind the hexenbiest proves he would have done it with juliette. He told juliette he would accept her the same way she accepted his grimm but juliette didn't give him the time. She had two whole seasons to accept him for what he was, she didnt even give Nick two epidodes to accept her for what she was before branding him her enemy.

Adalind was a favourite with some fans from the moment nick saw her. I became her fan when she gave birth to diana. I liked seeing her try to be a better person not because of a man, but because of the new found love for her daughter. For years she was selfish, childish, she was a terrible person willing to sell her own baby and suddenly she realised she made a mistake. That made me like her. She regretted her actions and i guess you can say she paid for her selfishness when she lost diana. I love that by the time they were reunited, adalind was a completely changed woman, nothing at all like the adalind from s1 through S3. There are good people and bad people in the world however, not every horrible person stays horrible, some of them do change their ways and become good, just as some good people can become bad. That's how it is in real life.

Adalind did't start everything, that was sean who sent her after Aunt Marie and Hank. When things didn't go the way he planned, he abandoned her and that is what got everthing rolling. You can't only blame adalind, you must blame Sean. He started everything. He sent her against nick. Nick took her powers away, she had diana to get them back. And you may as well blame Nick. He and his mother took diana away even though adalind was willing to disappear from their lives with her daughter but they kidnapped Diana and with Sean, told Adalind Viktor had her. Viktor told Adalind to take Nick's abilities if she wanted to see her daughter again he told her because Nick had taken her powers away first and that's the only way a grimm can lose his abilieties. Juliette performed the spell to make nick a grimm again, nobody made her do it.

Adalind is guilty of every bad thing she did on the show and hating her character is understandable, however, she isn't the only one that did bad things on the show. Even nick, the show's hero did bad things, so nobody is perfect.