Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-3125844-20150318175203/@comment-26235944-20150325032041

I have wondered if Elizabeth might be dying. She had a sadness about her, when she was visiting with her son, Sean Renard. If Elizabeth is dying...then this might be why Renard is having the 'phantom bleeding' where his gun shot wounds were. In that scene where she and Renard were sitting on a couch, after she had finished doing the spell to re-Grimm Nick...she mentioned that "These rude epreuve take more out of you, the older you get". By "rude epreuve", I think she meant "ordeals". Elizabeth may have put a lot of herself into that potion. She put a lot of time into it...and even went into full woge, stirring the bubbling potion with her bare hand. This may have been why Renard didn't call her, when Juliette asked him to. He didn't want to ask his mother to reverse the spell...which could have taken even more out of her, and also removed Nick's Grimm powers again. And on that subject...I think it's safe to assume that Elizabeth knew that Juliette would become a Hexenbiest as a side effect of the potion. 1) She said "This is more complicated than I thought. This will take some time to figure out." 2) Adalind said, when in Renard's car, that "If Juliette is a Hexenbiest, then that means that someone has helped Nick become a Grimm again." So if Adalind built that into her spell to take Nick's powers away...then Elizabeth probably would have figured this out when she recreated Adalind's potion. Juliette's woged state looks a lot like Elizabeth's woged state. I went back and watched that scene again, the scene where Elizabeth woged...and yes, they are very similar, much more alike than any other hexenbiests we have seen so far.