Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-98.117.68.195-20150503215639/@comment-49.149.8.104-20150805010507

Blutbau Fuchsbad wrote: 49.149.8.104 wrote: Some people act as if Adalind is the worst character in the series. lol. I strongly disagree. She has done some bad things, yes, but what character hasn't?? For one, Nick has killed tons of wessen, and, instead of simply telling Wu the truth, he allowed his friend to suffer alone in his emotional turmoil which almost led to insanity. And then we have Renard, who is worse than Adalind. This guy was the mastermind behind the attempted murder of Nick's aunt Marie - I don't understand why some would point the blame on Adalind. I mean, you don't need much analytical skills to determine that Renard was the one who ordered her to do it. Among other things, he also slept with both Adalind and her mom, and used Adalind's affection for him as a tool to manipulate her. Point is, all of the Grimm characters have flaws, strong points, and weak points.And this is what makes the series interesting. Otherwise, we'll get dull and bland characters like Juliette was in season 1. Nobody wants that.

I also don't think Adalind should be defined only by the terrible things she's done. Despite being a hexenbeist, there are times when she displayed traits that are very human. Oh and I don't fault her for the things she did after her baby was taken. Who the fuck really has the right to forcibly take away a baby from her mother's arms? No one. It was despicable how Nick and crew decided by themselves what to do with Diana without consulting the MOTHER who bore her. Nick's mom was too quick to agree too, even though she knew too well the pain she was about to inflict on Adalind. They got exactly what they had coming to them. Steal a child, face the mother's wrath. Bravo, but while Renard ordered her he was trying to recover the key. I would rather the key end up in his hand than hers, would not you? And yes, if you look closely at the title,, you would see that yes, it caused her pain. But that is the law of sacrifice. To do what is best for the future and not one person. Renard has always been trying to protect Nick. He said they could make history together. A better future. . Adalind showed only human qualities when she felt sorry for Nick losing his mother. Juliette did some things, but again, because Adalind did some things to her. Regardless of his motive, Renard still gave the order. The point I was making is that it was not Adalind who did it out of her own accord. Why would she want the key anyway? She never showed any interest in it. She only had interest in Renard at that time. Also, you said Renard has always been trying to protect Nick. So, my question, how is killing Nick's relative for the key considered protecting him? Imo, he's keeping Nick alive as a means to an end. Granted, he gradually became somewhat fond of Nick as time passed by. But this does not erase the fact that he's done terrible things to get what he wants, whether to Nick or somebody else. Don't get me wrong though, I like Renard. He's a complex character with faults. Most of the time, he doesn't allow morals to get in his way. But after getting to know Nick better, he's changing. I like that.

You say Adalind only showed a human side when she felt sorry for Nick, I say she showed a lot more than that. For instance, the passionate care she shows towards her children. I didn't see this trait from her own mother. Moreover, her character development is still ongoing. Can't deny she is slowly transforming from a cold hexenbiest into a human though, partly due to losing the hexenbiest in her more than once. I'm not saying she's a saint, cause she was and kinda still is a b*tch. Fortunately, Adalind's journey led her to people who have influenced her enough to change her bit by bit.

Oh man, this is such a long post, but one last thing, promise! XD Regarding Juliet's hexenbiest transformation, I believe it was an unfortunate accident. But she did agree to do it despite the consequences. No one was to blame for that because she said yes. It was her decision. She could've easily said no, no one forced her. And when you say yes, you take responsibility no matter what. You can't just take back your word because you didn't think the side effect was too much for you. It's like blaming the doctor for unforseen consequences from an invasive surgery you agreed to go under, knowing full well there might be side effects. /shrug