Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-3125844-20150908191150/@comment-1509826-20150910120212

Lurkenfrau wrote: General MGD 109 wrote:

....she's effectively being conscripted (quite literally as their clearly willing to outright kidnap her). Conscripted? I don't think so. 1) We don't do that in this country. 2) If Chavez wanted to truly 'kidnap' Trubel, she could have done it long before, when she abducted her that time...but she let her go.

Really it doesn't matter if they do it in this country. Cloak and Dagger organisations have been doing things like that since the start. And most of the country never knows.

As for your second point it depends, legitemently in these situations you don't jump straight to forcing a person to join you. You give them the option, its just when they revolt you say no. Regardless of her motivations, she did legitemently kidnap Trubel that's how they first met, and as the footage shows she's willing to do it again.

Lurkenfrau wrote: General MGD 109 also wrote: And she's already had a pretty miserable life. No doubt Chevaz will try to also force Nick to join her (though I have a feeling Nick's going to force her to ease up on the tactics).

I'm not convinced that Chavez is a 'bad guy', not just yet. I know that's how she is being made to look, but the show messes with us about these things, they've done it before. For example, Kelly Burkhardt was made to look sinister when they first introduced us to her. So I'm doing a wait and see on Chavez.

I understand your point, it probably won't be as clear cut as good or bad, but the thing is regardless of who she is and what she wants, Chevaz tactics aren't moral.

Lurkenfrau wrote: I think that it could be one of the big reveals of the next season, that Chavez and the mysterious covert 'Group' that she works for, is some sort of Men In Black agency that tracks down dangerous Wesen in the US. Europe has it's Wesen Council. It would make sense for the US to have it's own version.

Its entirely possible, but even if that is true that is a good thing. The Wesen council may be nicer than the royals, but they have draconian laws, licence assassins and bounty hunters and turn a blind eye to bigoted fanatics.

Chevaz is clearly willing to resort to kidnapping and stalking, some how if she is working for the American version (which if it does exist, you have to wonder why the American wesen relate to the European council) I see no reason to expect them to be any kinder.