Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-25875828-20150512091124/@comment-26198454-20150523153635

174.92.12.114 wrote: Even if I was rich, that would not disprove the points I bring up, and any suggestion to the contrary would constitute an ad hominum fallacy (attempting to disprove an arguement by attacking the opponent rather than the arguement). I would get off the high horse( are you the Omniscient?).

It is more than 15 years ago, but I also visited the University in Germany and Switzerland. It also true that we had in this timeline no facebook, internet and smartphones. We learned only with books and have not become dumber. The only possiblity to call somebody was from a pay phone. But I'm still alive and can follow your arguments. And that makes me now, what? Special? Exceptionally ? Nonsense.

You didn't understand what I wanted to say. Poor people have in the majority more moral and ethic than rich one. Why also your revelation ? To intimidate me? Forget it.

Personally, I hold experts in high esteem, as should you. Anti-intelletualism is not a positive trait and has led to such fabulous things as gloal warming deniers and the anti-vaxx movement (sarcasm, in case you could not tell). There are exceptions but most are theorists and no pratiker. And I enjoy having people to talk, who are not intellectually to understand their perspective on life. I am not better and also do not consider me for it. So, enough with this intellectual rubbish.

Kelly was only caught because Kenneth had a card up his sleave that NO ONE (I repeat, NO ONE) could have antiipated; Juliettes betrayal. As no one knew she was in bed with the royals (in one case literally), no one could have warned kelly about a possible trap. there was nothing Nick could have done at all. Kenneth had even a second card without knowing. And Nick could have go after Juliette, (like Sean did it with Adalind), Why not ? (As says the Japanese, rather stupid questions than stay stupid) He could have questioned Adalind. It's not so difficult to track a handy. Wu would have surely helped him.

Everybody knew that Diana was the target, so if Juliette is in the same hotel as the Royals Nick could have a suspicion. And breadcrumb were there enough. If he would able to prevent what happened, that's another question. But at least he would have done everything that was possible. I have previously stated that the lore in that trailer was FAR more valuable than Juliettes life and I stand by that statment; who knows what unknown wesen or entity will appear next that the trailer could have helped with? The trailer was more than the books it contained; it was a key instrument for protecting countless innocents and it was destroyed by Juliettes thoughtless rage. Nothing is more sacred than a life, not even the stone tablets of Moses written by God with the 10 Commandments.

And the Trailer ? I agree that was surely not her best move. We should not exaggerate. Time or World will not stand still. And it's not the only knowledge about "Wesen" on this planet to save someone. It was Nick's heritage, not the tradition of all Grimms It's a key, nothing more. ( and incidentally: a so important collection of books are left without any copies or security in the woods ? Did you ever visit the Vatican? You are not even allowed to touch a book and everything is secured)

To have books is nice, but without being a Grimm they are useless. But you can be a Grimm without books and learn by experience. What Adalind did was worse. She suppressed Nicks abilities, so he was not able to help people or friends. do we forget the time she nearly killed Monroe? Or her own admission that she was enjoying her violent acts? Not to mention complete apathy over the deaths of her Neighbours and minimal empathetic response to Kellys own murder. She is one sick puppy, who must be put down for her own good and the good of others. She waited till Monroe was out of the line. The neighbors were already dead as Kenneth decided to attack the house with or without her help. She was depressed, lost and apathetic. She didn't know how to deal with her powers. That's not an excuse for her behavior but an understanding why she acted like she acted.

I don't blame her for Kelly's death, I blame Diana. Juliette warned Kelly and let fate run its course She doublecrossed Kenneth but failed.( in the e-mail and phone call was a hidden warning)

Diana is the second card. Finally she had the option to get rid of Kelly and move on. Kelly would have remark her changing and is a dangerous Grimm.

She is not the sweet,cute little Girl and a lot of people die in their vicinity. She is the devil in disguise, the evil in person.

Kelly didn't leave her brain in the car, Diana manipulated her, like the first time in the plane to take her away from Adalind, this time to walk in a trap and Meisner to throw The King out of the helicopter..

She only could manipulated Juliette because of her unstable state to return home and knows that Juliette could be the only one who might be able to stop her. Nick would kill Juliette, that was the plan.

In Diana are two souls living, one of them are Madame Pesch, who has start her revenge. And who would ever suspect a child doing horrible things.

About Adalind I've said more than enough. Only sick people would take voluntarily a potion from this woman.

Hopefully Juliettes head rolls in the Finale and you can stop your apologist behavior. If nothing else, remember this; Nothing anybody else has done so far justifies Juliettes increadibly rapid decent into what most of us call "the Dark Side". The only thing that rolls are my eyes about your commanding. You should put the relations in the right light. Your opinions and views should not apply to all continents, tradition and religions.

What you call "the dark side " would not even be enough for a fairy tale.

And yes, finally I accept my (how did you call it?) "apologist behavior." I'm the Knight of the Red Nightmare Queen and will follow her on every trial. XXD