Board Thread:General Grimm Discussion/@comment-25875828-20141217190511/@comment-24397663-20150607211935

82.21.236.214 wrote: Are you really saying that Henrietta and Elizabeth were nasty, selfish and never showed anyone respect for their feelings? Even Catherine and Adalind showed each other respect as hexenbiests. Wow, hold your horses, I never said anything like that. All I said was - good or bad depends on your own POV. And that Juliette had known enough about hexenbiests to come to terms with what might work for herself as a hexenbiest and what not.

She knew what she herself hated about them - what she hated so much, that she wanted Adalind dead for it. If you're looking too long into the abyss - it looks back into you... and in the end she became everything she hated...

She had the chance to be the hexenbiest-equal to Nick's grimm. And I sooo much would have liked that. A nice hexenbiest helping a grimm and the Wesen of Portland. She could've studied potions with Rosalee's books or with Catherine's. She could've brewed antidots and protect her friends. But she chose to go all bad hexenbiest. And that's why she became an A+.

But if you wanna go there, let's recap about the hexebiester we 'met'.

There are the Shades, Stefania, Fr. Pech, Elizabeth and Henrietta (Yes I know, Stefania never was 'revealed' as a hexenbiest, but she said 'Better you than me', when killing Fr. Pech, so I count her for one).

Both Adalind and Catherine as well as Stefania could be described as 'nasty, selfish and without respect for other peoples feeling' as long as it fit their own purpose. Or would you call Catherine a very warm person and loving mother after the grimm-blood-inccident? No, she wasn't. Even Adalind said something along that line when her mother's coffin was exhumed.

Think about it - Hexenbiests were showed us for three seasons as such selfish beeings.

Elizabeth was the first one we ever saw or heard about, that seemed to be a nice person and simply wanted to help without getting something in return.

But wait, there was a reason for her to do it - she wanted to help her son in getting him his grimm back. Not just because she liked Nick and simply wanted to help him out of scheer kindheartedness. Without Sean she probably never would've helped with that potion. Why should she? Unless you count it as a challenge to recreate the potion. To show which hexenbiest is the better one... But Nick had been helpfull for Sean and she counted on him to protect and support her son. So it was a quit pro quo.

And Henrietta? She never really helped in any way... neither Juliette nor Renard. She told Juliette to hang onto her love for Nick and told the latter in return to keep his distance... even forced some... respect for hexenbiests in him shortly after he learned from Juliette what happened. She wanted him to be sort of afraid of Juliette. How helpfull was that? does that fit together with beeing 'nice'?

Yes, both were seemingly friendly and so on, but as the saying goes - smiling is the nicest way to show someone your teeth...