Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-2255188-20131110224813/@comment-74.240.208.121-20140321114556

Bheadr27 wrote: It was spidervenom meant to kill Marie.

And Marie was not an Endezeichen Grimm. So why should Renard expect Nick turning into one? Sorry, but that makes no sense.

Renard maybe wanted her dead just because she was a Grimm with one of the keys. Could be as simple as that, could be a lot more complicated ;-)

He told Nick he didn't realized his connection with Marie at first (tough hard to believe there's sthg our hard working Prince of Portland doesn't know...). So he maybe changed his plans because of Nick "having a badge and a conscience". So they could work together for a saver Portland for Wesen and Kehrseites alike ;-)

But with Renard we'll probably never know XDD Hate to shoot you down, but read post 17. Does not make sense. But I am glad you brought up the spider venom. Why use spider venom from halfway across the world, when you could use the poisonous beans of a houseplant common in the state just below (castor beans). It's uncurrable, and just a small dose (3 or 4 beans) could kill a grown person.