Board Thread:Episode Discussions/@comment-3125844-20131122222527/@comment-6770938-20131217034548

SkyLark34 wrote:

The word Verrat is definitely not Chinese, though. That's my first language, and it's not even possible to make the V-sound in chinese. I think it sounds German.  xxx Harbinger3781 :

It's a pleasure to break them with you too! ^^ I'm glad I didn't come across as some ranting idiot. I feel bad clogging up the forums, but it does relate to the episode. I don't watch Castle, though would you recommend it to me, based on the shows I've listed on my profile page? I do need something to fill the void my life between the Saturdays when Grimm comes out. Nick most certainly is some sort of representation of the big bad Grimms for the Portland Wesen, most of whom have never met a real Endezeichen Grimm. The Wesen are terrified by nothing but stories; and are swiftly growing out of that terror, but if Nick goes on like this they really are going to have to be careful. Nick is rapidly growing and changing and he's not throwing punches all the time anymore. No, he broke past that wall when he obliterated the four Verrat Wesen agents with a spiked japanese club. When he stabbed two Gelumcaedus without skipping a beat and had it in him to <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">smirk <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> down at their devastated little brother. <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">So, what I mean by veering away is very nicely summed up in <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:bold;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">Roacher27' <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">s post above mine. Nick's always been a good and conflicted man. In the start, he hesitated to kill anything at all, but now he is just <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">mowing <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> through Wesen. <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(217,217,217);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap;line-height:1.5;">These Wesen are evil, yes, and would probably rip Nick apart if given the chance. But so was the man at the bar. He had a knife, and Nick was defending himself, but Nick was so torn up over it he almost turned himself in. <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(217,217,217);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap;line-height:1.5;">Just some examples of the general desensitization to Wesen wellbeing from 3x08: <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> (Spoilers?) <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">He brushes off Bud's concerns about Quinn, oftentimes leaving without giving him any details or comfort. He attacks the Schakal Santa <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;">just <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Arial;color:#d9d9d9;font-weight:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;"> because he woged. I'd bet he wouldn't have hurt him that much if the Schakal had been human. <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(217,217,217);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap;line-height:1.5;">And I might be mistaken, but after Krampus is knocked out, either Nick or Hank says something along the lines of, "We have to kill it, it's Wesen!" (Right in front of Monroe, no less, gosh) <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.5;margin-top:10pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:rgb(217,217,217);font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap;line-height:1.5;">So yeah, like I said, Nick is changing, headed into a dangerous direction where he might really be the monster Wesen kids tell each other around campfires. I think he's going to trip and fall over that thin line that separates him and his ancestors.

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First, I didn't say it was Chinese. The word "verrat" was translated into Chinese as "镇反军", which then re-translates into English as "anti-resistance force/army".

I'd like to recommend Castle, it features, quote, "America's most favourite couple". Just tell me how do I recommend it to you - should I leave a message or something? I would happily recommend you some shows to kill time. Just one thing: Fall and winter finales just aired. So you'll have to wait till at least January for the next episode.

You are, most certainly, not a, quote, "rambling idiot". I thought I was, once. ;P

About Nick, I don't think he's turning into his ancestors. No, far from it. Attacking the Schakal Santa? Kids got abducted with superhuman strength, and it was something only a wesen have. Why did that Schakal run after seeing Nick, apart from seeing a Grimm? He could say "I did nothing" first! Fleeing *human* in police confrontation would seem suspicious, a fleeing wesen would make a pretty big fat target. After Krampus? Nick clearly said "We can't just kill him on the ground!" It was Hank and Monroe first suggested Nick to carry out his Grimm tradition. And when Nick is hesitant to kill him, it was Hank who draw the gun on the wesen (almost shot him too). Mowing through wesen? I'd say he's mowing through wesen with mostly non-lethal force.